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HEY IT IS THURSDAY 4 20 P.M EASTERN THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR OFFICE HOURS AROYA'S WEEKLY SESSION FOR CULTIVATORS TO HEAR FROM THE EXPERTS AND TALK TO EACH OTHER ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE SEEING WITH THEIR GROWS MY NAME IS KASIA I'LL BE CO-MODERATING TODAY WITH MY GOOD FRIEND MANDY HOW YOU DOING MANDY HEY KAISHA IF ANYONE HAS A QUESTION TODAY YOU GUYS CAN GO AHEAD AND TYPE IT IN OUR CHAT AT ANY TIME UH IF IT'S CHOSEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ASK AWAY OR WE CAN ASK FOR YOU UM WE DID HAVE SOME GREAT TOPICS TO GO AHEAD AND COVER THIS WEEK SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PASS IT BACK TO KASIA EXCELLENT THANK YOU MANDY YEAH SO UH YOU FOLKS LIKE FEEL FREE TO TYPE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IN THE CHAT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE A FIRST TIME QUESTION ASKER YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME SWAG AND THEN EVERYBODY WHO'S ON TODAY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN A LIMITED EDITION ARROYO T-SHIRT SO BE SURE TO DROP YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS IN THE CHAT SO THAT YOU CAN ENTER TO WIN ALL RIGHT SETH AND JASON HOW YOU GUYS DOING GOOD HOW ARE YOU KAISHA GOOD GOOD TO SEE YOU SO UM OUR FIRST QUESTION IS JUST KIND OF LIKE A GENERAL OVERVIEW WE ACTUALLY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH TOGETHER ME AND YOU JASON EARLIER THIS WEEK UM ABOUT SENSOR DENSITY SO WHY DON'T WE START THERE CAN YOU GUYS GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW ABOUT ABOUT SENSOR DENSITY WHAT IT IS UM AND WHAT CULTIVATORS NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HOW AND WHERE TO PLACE THEIR SENSORS SURE SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SENSOR DENSITY BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY PLANTS OF A POPULATION ARE YOU MONITORING WITH A SUBSTRATE SENSOR AND IN MOST OF THE HYDROPONIC APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE WORKING IN OBVIOUSLY PLANTS EITHER HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL SUBSTRATE OR THEY'LL SHARE IT BETWEEN TWO AND THREE PLANTS MAYBE ON A ROCKWOOL SLAB AND SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT CROP UNIFORMITY REALLY WE WANT TO KNOW HOW CLOSELY ARE ALL OF THE PLANTS PERFORMING RED ZONE WISE AND THAT CAN GIVE US AN IDEA ON HOW EASY IT'S GOING TO BE TO STEER THE PLANTS IF WE'VE GOT PLANTS THAT ARE OPERATING MUCH DIFFERENTLY THEN WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN WE MAKE STEERING DECISIONS UH YOU KNOW ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT CANNABIS IS WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH CLONED PLANTS THEIR THEIR GENETIC MAKEUP IS VERY VERY SIMILAR I KNOW MUCH MORE THAN WE WOULD BE IN SEEDED PLANTS AND SO THAT DOES HELP BUT OBVIOUSLY THE THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY IS YOU KNOW HOW CONSISTENT WE'RE TAKING OUR CUTTINGS UH HOW CONSISTENT OUR IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THE BASICALLY THE WAYS THAT WE'RE TREATING THOSE IS IT IS IT KEEPING THOSE PLANTS IN THE SIMILAR ENOUGH GROWTH PATTERN TO EACH OTHER IN ORDER TO APPLY CROP STEERING SO OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEAR QUITE A BIT WHEN WE'RE TALKING WITH CLIENTS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE MIGRATING FROM UH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SYSTEMS THAT WERE OFFERED UH FOR ROOT ZONE MONITORING IS THAT UH THEY WERE SO EXPENSIVE THAT MAYBE THEY ONLY HAD ONE SENSOR IN A WHOLE ROOM AND I HAD MANY MANY CLIENTS I'VE HEARD WAY MORE TIMES THAN WHAT I'VE EXPECTED IS THAT THE PLANT WITH THE SENSOR WAS GROWING GREAT AND THAT THE REST OF THE ROOM UH HAD LACKLUSTER PERFORMANCE AND SO THAT'S IN YOU KNOW ONE CASE WHERE THE STEERING BASED ON THE DATA WAS WORKING VERY WELL FOR THE PLANT THAT THEY HAD DATA FROM THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH DATA IN ORDER TO CAPTURE A GREAT PICTURE OF THAN THE ENTIRE CROP SO REALLY KIND OF JUST A DEFAULT THAT WE GO BY IS THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE ONE SUBSTRATE SENSOR PER 100 SQUARE FOOT OF CANOPY AND OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY DIGGING INTO THE DETAILS ABOUT DIFFERENCES IN GENETICS SO YOU RUN OUT OF MONO CROP YOU'RE RUNNING MULTIPLE STRAINS IN A ROOM DO YOU HAVE VAST ENVIRONMENTAL DIFFERENCES YOU KNOW IS THERE SOME SOME VARIANTS UH YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE RUNNING IN LIKE A 150 FOOT OR 200 FOOT WIND OR A TUNNEL YOU KNOW LIKE A HIGH TUNNEL OR SOMETHING YOU'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO SEE BIG ENVIRONMENTAL DIFFERENCES FROM FRONT TO BACK IN SOME OF THOSE CASES YOU MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SENSITIVITY IN ORDER TO DEFINITELY START TO ATTRIBUTE HOW HOW UNIFORM THOSE THOSE PLANTS ARE AND I'LL DIG INTO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE BUT I KIND OF WANTED TO GET S YEAH I MEAN IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW SENSOR DENSITY IN GENERAL WE'VE GOT LET'S SAY ONE SENSOR PER 80 PLANTS RIGHT IF I'VE GOT THAT I CAN ASSUME THAT 40 ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT ABOVE AND 39 ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT BELOW THAT PLANT THE SMALLER NUMBER THAT I HAVE TO MAKE THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT THE MORE ACCURATE I CAN BE ON ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THESE CHANGES IN CROP STEERING AND EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW MOST OF US MIGHT THINK WE HAVE A REALLY UNIFORM ENVIRONMENT LET'S SAY RIGHT BACK TO WHAT JASON SAID YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT MICRO CLIMATES TO DEAL WITH AT ALL YOU'VE GOT TO CAPTURE THAT AND DECIDE HOW AM I GOING TO TREAT THAT PART OF THE ROOM DIFFERENTLY AND THEN YOU KNOW EXTEND THAT INTO TODAY'S MARKET AND THERE'S VERY FEW GROWERS OUT THERE THAT I'VE MET THAT ARE ABLE TO MONO CROP WITH THEIR MARKETING STRATEGY MAYBE IF THEIR FACILITY'S BEEN BUILT OUT IN A WAY THAT THEY'RE REALLY CHURNING PRODUCT AND THEY HAVE SMALL ROOMS BUT A LOT OF MOST GROWERS ARE FORCED TO GROW YOU KNOW TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX STRAINS EVERY TIME IN A ROOM AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY YOU KNOW WITH THOSE BIGGER DIFFERENCES THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO CROP STEER WITHOUT HAVING VISIBILITY ON EACH INDIVIDUAL STRAIN SO YOU KNOW EVEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR CUSTOMERS THAT ARE LIKE BOUTIQUE GROWERS THOUSAND SQUARE FEET UM IF THEY'RE GROWN EIGHT STRAINS IN THERE THEY'LL HAVE EIGHT SENSORS YOU KNOW THEY'RE YOU KNOW WAY OVER THE SENSOR DENSITY THEY MIGHT NEED IF THEY'RE EVEN LET'S SAY 600 FEET BUT IT ALLOWS THEM TO ACTUALLY YOU KNOW HAVE GREATER SUCCESS AND MAXIMIZE WHAT THEY'RE GETTING OUT OF THAT SMALL AREA AND YOU KNOW LIKE JASON SAID YEARS AGO THESE SENSORS WERE SO EXPENSIVE THAT YOU KNOW GOING INTO A COMMERCIAL GREENHOUSE YOU MIGHT SEE ONE OR TWO IN A FIVE OR TEN THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT BAY AND THAT'S JUST YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT A GREENHOUSE IF IT'S 150 FEET LONG WE'VE GOT AIR COMING IN ONE END AND OUT THE OTHER OF COURSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GRADIENT AND EVERYTHING FROM HUMIDITY TEMPERATURE HOW FAST THE AIR IS MOVING IN THERE WHERE IT'S BLOWING YOU KNOW WE WE NEED THE HIGHEST DENSITY THAT WE CAN REASONABLY AFFORD TO MAXIMIZE PRODUCTION THERE AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CLIENTS THAT YOU KNOW THEY WHEN THEY FIRST START JUST BECAUSE OF THE PRICE YOU KNOW NOT THAT OURS ARE PARTICULARLY EXPENSIVE BUT HEY EVERYONE'S TRYING TO KEEP THEIR COSTS DOWN THAT PRICE PRICE PER POUND OF PRODUCTION BUT AFTER USING IT FOR LIKE LET'S SAY SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR A LOT OF TIMES THEY'LL DOUBLE THEIR SENSOR DENSITY BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT AND GOING MAN I'VE GOT REALLY GOOD CONTROL OF THESE TWO OUT OF MY FOUR BENCHES IN THAT ROOM SO I'LL DOUBLE IT AND USUALLY THEY SEE AN APPRECIABLE INCREASE IN THEIR YIELDS AND HAVE THE ABILITY NOW TO RUN LET'S SAY SPLIT ROOMS MUCH MUCH EASIER AND IT'S JUST KIND OF ANTIDOTE SO YOU KNOW I WAS RUNNING IN A 125 40 GREENHOUSES BACK WHEN I WAS CULTIVATING AND YEAH I I'D USUALLY BE OPERATING ON WORST CASE LIKE YOU KNOW EIGHT TO TEN DEGREE UH TEMPERATURE INCREASE FRONT TO BACK AND SO UH YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY SENSORS IN THERE AS I WOULD HAVE LIKED ESPECIALLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS FRONT TO BACK SO SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WAS CAPTURED WITH JUST SNAPSHOTS YOU KNOW MANUAL READINGS SO GOING IN THERE WITH A HANDHELD HYGROMETER THERMOMETER AND TAKING POINT READINGS YOU KNOW A POINT IN TIME A POINT IN SPACE AND DOCUMENTING THAT AND UNFORTUNATELY YOU CAN'T NEARLY GET NEARLY AS MUCH DETAIL AS YOU CAN BECAUSE UH YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY IN GREENHOUSES THERE'S A TON OF DYNAMICS GOING ON WE'RE LOOKING AT EVENTS WE'RE LOOKING AT RIDGE VENTS WE'RE LOOKING AT FANS PAD PUMPS ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF YOU KNOW FLOOR FANS AND SO THOSE CAN ALL CHANGE ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE RUNNING AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM IN A VERY

INTERESTING ENVIRONMENT LIKE WE HAVE YOU KNOW IT CAN BE 40 DEGREES IN THE MORNING AND YOU KNOW UPWARDS OF 70 OR 80 BY TWO OR THREE IN THE AFTERNOON DURING SOME OF OUR SEASONS AND SO UH IT'S HARD TO TO CAPTURE ALL RIGHT WELL HOW CAN I OPERATE THIS EQUIPMENT DIFFERENTLY TO MINIMIZE THAT DIFFERENCE AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I CAME TO REALIZE WAS TRYING TO OPTIMIZE CROPS LOCATION IN THE GREENHOUSES WE WERE FORCED TO RUN MULTIPLE STRAINS IN THE GREENHOUSES AND I REALIZED WELL IF WE HAVE A CROP RECORD ON HOW THIS SPECIFIC STRAIN FUNCTIONS DOES IT PREFER A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TEMPERATURE IS IT ONE THAT WE NEED THAT COLOR AND THOSE NIGHTTIME DIFFERENTIALS WELL IF IT IS HIGHER TEMPERATURE LET'S PUSH IT TO THE BACK WHERE THE EXHAUST FANS ARE AT YOU KNOW IF IT'S ONE THAT WE REALLY NEED THOSE COLORS AT WE'LL PUT IT TOWARDS THE FRONT AND WHEN THAT PAD OPENS UP IN THE MORNING IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA GET A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT EXTRA COOLER THAN I WANT THE ENTIRETY OF THE CROP SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT SENSOR DENSITY IT IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT TO GET THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPONENT OF THAT AS WELL AND THEN PAIR IT WITH THE ROOT ZONE BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IS YOU KNOW NOT ONLY THE RESPONSE FROM THE PLANTS BUT BUT WHAT CAUSED THAT RESPONSE IN THE GROWTH AND THE TRANSPIRATION RATE IN THOSE PLANTS YEAH ABSOLUTELY I MEAN UM YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PEOPLE PRETTY REGULARLY THIS SUMMER THAT ARE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH HEAT IN THEIR BUILDINGS FOR INSTANCE SO WE'RE GOING LIKE OKAY WHAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THESE PLANTS TO STRETCH OUT LIKE OKAY GO MOVE YOUR CLIMATE SENSOR OVER TOWARDS THAT WALL THAT'S NEAR THE OUTSIDE WELL IT'S 90 DEGREES OVER THERE SO YOU KNOW EVEN THOUGH YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE A HUGE ROOM AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU'D HAVE SOME MICROCLIMATES MOST FACILITIES END UP HAVING THEM I MEAN IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DESIGN A UH A ROOM IN A THREE-DIMENSIONAL SHAPE THE WAY WE DO AND HAVE AIR FLOW THROUGH IT JUST PERFECTLY YOU KNOW AND THEN YOU ADD ON TO THAT THAT MOST MOST GROWERS AREN'T IN A BUILDING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO GROW PLANTS SO EVERYONE'S GOT YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF COMPROMISE SOMEWHERE IN THEIR DESIGN THAT THEY HAD TO HAVE JUST TO FIT INTO THAT BUILDING AND USUALLY ACHIEVE THE PARAMETERS THAT THEY NEED TO ESPECIALLY IF IT'S AN OLDER GROW THAT'S BEEN UPGRADED OVER TIME YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT THE SENSOR DENSITY OR JUST THE DATA FROM ALL THOSE MICRO CLIMATES YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO CROP STEER BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE CHASING YOUR TAIL A LOT MORE TRYING TO SOLVE PROBLEMS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE JUST BY SHOVING A CLIMATE STATION IN A CORNER FOR A FEW DAYS AND GOING OH YEAH YOU KNOW IT'S REALLY COLD OVER THERE THAT'S WHY EVERYTHING'S STRUGGLING IN THAT CORNER THAT'S WHY IT'S REAL PURPLE UM YEAH WITHOUT THAT INCREASED VISIBILITY YOU JUST CAN'T IMPLEMENT THE CHANGES THAT YOU NEED TO AGAIN YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN KIND OF DIGGING INTO THE STATISTICAL OR MATH SIDE OF THIS I DID A YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT KIND OF DOCUMENTS I THINK IT'S CALLED CROPPED UNIFORMITY AND SENSOR DENSITY IT'S UP IN OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL THERE LOOK IT UP UH YOU KNOW I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT UM POPULATION CURVES AND UH ANALYZING THE STANDARD DEVIATION OVER YOUR CROP UH REALLY BASICALLY THE THINGS THAT ARE MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT USING A HIGH SENSOR DENSITY UH YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SENSORS IN THERE IT MIGHT BE HARD TO TO KNOW IF ALL OF YOUR CROP RESPONDED WELL TO A CHANGE IN STEERING PARAMETERS AND SO BASICALLY SHOWING YOU HEY HERE'S HERE'S THE NUMBERS THAT YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AND AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE WHEN WE SHIFT WHEN WE'RE MONOCROPPING AND MAYBE WHEN WE MAKE A SHIFT FOR MULTI-CROP THAT UH YOU KNOW MAKES SOME PLANTS GROW BETTER AND MAYBE SOME PLANTS GROW WORSE SO JUST WAYS TO MITIGATE THAT AND OBVIOUSLY OUR HARVEST GROUPS ARE THE BEST WAY THAT YOU CAN TRACK UH GENETIC-BASED PERFORMANCE AND MATCH IT UP WITH UH WITH DATA POINTS FROM EVERY THREE MINUTES OF GROW CYCLE YEAH AND YOU KNOW I MEAN WHEN YOU UP THAT SENSORY DENSITY TOO IT GIVES YOU EYES ON THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE PREVIOUSLY TAKEN YOU KNOW JUST A LOT OF EFFORT TO GATHER SO IF WE CAN DOUBLE OR TRIPLE OUR SENSOR DENSITY IN A ROOM NOW WE CAN SEE WHAT YOU KNOW OUR UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE CROP IN TERMS OF WATER CONTENT AT FIELD CAPACITY LET'S SAY WELL I KNOW FOR ME THAT'S GOING TO INFLUENCE LIKE WILL I BUY THAT BRAND OF COCOA AGAIN IF I'M RUNNING COCO DOES IT INDICATE SOME OTHER PROBLEM WITH THE WAY I'M HYDRATING MY MEDIA YOU KNOW I CAN START TO SEE THINGS WHERE IF I DIDN'T HAVE THE SENSOR DENSITY I'D HAVE TO GO OUT AND MANUALLY CHECK THAT CONSTANTLY TO TRY TO GET THAT VARIATION AT THE END OF MY P1'S AND YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY PRACTICAL PLUS YOU ONLY HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME RIGHT AFTER THAT IRRIGATION TO GO GATHER THAT DATA BEFORE IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO BE RELEVANT BECAUSE THE PLANTS ARE DRYING BACK WE WON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT FIELD CAPACITY IS ON ALL THOSE SO HAVING THOSE EYES JUST REALLY OPENS UP A WHOLE WORLD OF POSSIBILITIES AND KNOWING WHAT'S GOING ON INSIDE YOUR ROOT ZONE AND THEN IDENTIFYING THINGS LIKE I SAID IF YOU GOT MEDIA QUALITY PROBLEMS AND YOU HAVEN'T BEEN CHECKING WHAT YOUR FIELD CAPACITY IS REALLY REGULARLY ACROSS ALL OF YOUR CUBES WHEN YOU HYDRATE THEM YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE YOU KNOW WE MIGHT BE ASSUMING THAT HEY EVERYTHING'S RUNNING IN A PRETTY GOOD RANGE AND WE DON'T DIDN'T ACTUALLY REALIZE THAT ONE OF THE BOXES WE GOT IS RUNNING LIKE 20 PERCENT LOWER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE YOU KNOW IT'S JUST REALLY DENSE MATERIALS SO WE JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND CATCH IT AND THAT'S ALSO YOU KNOW KIND OF THE KEY TO REALLY DIALING IN THAT CROP UNIFORMITY THANKS MANDY FOR UH POSTING UP THAT LINK THERE TO IN THE IN CALL MESSAGES CHAT UH IN THIS GOOGLE CALL SO YOU KNOW CHECK IT OUT AND I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SHORT VIDEO IT'S GOING TO BE WELL WORTH YOUR TIME ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SURPRISED ME MOST UH VERY EARLY ON WHEN WE WERE DOING UH INSTALLATION TERRORIST 12 INSTALLATIONS IN THE HYDROPONIC MEDIAS UH YOU KNOW I THINK IT WAS MAYBE TWO WEEKS IN UH RIGHT AFTER ONE OF MY FIRST INSTALLS I NOTIFIED A CLIENT THAT HEY YOU KNOW YOUR WATER CONTENT'S LOOKING LOW AND IT WAS A CLOGGED DRIPPER UH WOULD WE HAVE CAUGHT THAT IF THERE WAS LESS SENSORS IT'S JUST LIKE BUYING A LOTTERY TICKET YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU BUY A LOT MORE LOTTERY TICKETS YOU'RE MORE LIKELY TO WIN SO UH YOU KNOW HAVING THOSE SENSORS IN THERE AND SEEING THINGS LIKE A CLOGGED EMITTER OR OR AN EMITTER THAT GOT PULLED OUT OF THE SUBSTRATE IT'S IT'S REALLY SURPRISING HOW OFTEN WE SEE THAT WITH CLIENTS THAT ARE DOING A GOOD JOB AS FAR AS SENSOR DENSITY BUT MAY HAVE OTHER CHALLENGES THAT THOSE SENSORS CAN HELP THEM ADDRESS IN THEIR ROOMS OH YEAH EVEN EYES ON LIKE LET'S SAY YOU'VE GOT AN IRRIGATION SYSTEM THAT HAS A LOT OF MANUAL VALVES THAT YOU TURN TO CLEAN IT SOMEONE LEAVES IT SOMEONE LEAVES THE SOLENOID OFF AND WALKS AWAY AND GOES HOME NOW AT LEAST SOMEONE'S GOING TO GET AN ALERT AND WE WON'T CATCH IT TWO DAYS LATER WHEN THAT TABLE'S WILTING YOU KNOW LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY OR COST EFFECTIVE RIGHT AWAY TO ENGINEER SAY YOUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM WITH A BUNCH OF FAIL-SAFES AND EVEN IF YOU DO EVEN FAIL-SAFES FAIL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MECHANICAL AUTOMATED SYSTEMS UNLESS SOMEONE'S STANDING THERE YOU NEVER YOU SHOULD TRUST IT YOU CAN TRUST IT BUT THINGS BREAK ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW LIKE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAY DOSATRONS FOR INSTANCE LIKE IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT I LOVE THEM BUT THEY ARE CONSUMABLE THEY HAVE WEARABLE PARTS INSIDE THERE'S REPLACEMENT PARTS AVAILABLE IF YOU WEREN'T REGULARLY CHECKING WHAT'S COMING OUT OF YOUR EMITTERS FOR INSTANCE YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO YOU'VE GOT IT SET TO FEED IT AT 3-0 BUT I RUN INTO THIS A LOT A YEAR LATER NOW IT'S ONLY PUTTING IN A 1.5 OR YOU REORGANIZE YOUR IRRIGATION SYSTEM YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH FLOW IT'S NOT MIXING RIGHT SO I MEAN YOU CAN CHASE YOUR TAIL FOR A WHILE ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GO MAN I HAVE IT SET AT 3.0 AND THEN FINALLY WHEN YOU GO DO THE TABLE TEST YOU'RE LIKE OKAY IF I JUST WOULD HAVE THAT ES2 I WOULD HAVE SEEN LIKE THIS DECLINE OVER TIME OR HEY RIGHT WHEN WE CHANGED UP THIS IRRIGATION CONFIGURATION OUR EC JUST DROPPED OUT IN THE LINE LIKE THE INJECTORS AREN'T WORKING RIGHT BUT WE FIND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THAT VISIBILITY WON'T NOTICE THAT FOR MAYBE YOU KNOW LIKE A WHOLE RUN THEY'RE GOING WHY THE HECK ARE MY PLANTS YOU KNOW THEY'VE GOTTEN TO TRUST THEIR EQUIPMENT WHICH IS GOOD BUT THEY JUST DIDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW SAY THAT IT REQUIRED THAT HIGH LEVEL OF AMAZING MAINTENANCE YEAH YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT IS INTERESTING AS WELL IS JUST SOME DATA REDUNDANCY LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THESE SYSTEMS IS LIKE EVEN THE MOST RELIABLE SYSTEMS SOMETIMES GET TOUCHED BY AN UNEDUCATED HUMAN BEING UH WHEN ONE TIME I WAS LOOKING AT OUR LIGHT READINGS IN THE GREENHOUSE AND I THOUGHT MAN I YOU KNOW WE GOT A PROBLEM IS MY BLACKOUT CLOSING UP WHEN I DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO WHY IS MY WHY IS MY LIGHT READING SO LOW AND YOU KNOW IT ENDED UP THE THE SENSOR WAS LAID ON ITS SIDE SO THAT LIGHT SENSOR WAS A PERFECT 90 DEGREE ANGLE IT WAS FUNCTIONING GREAT OBVIOUSLY IF I WOULD HAD ARROYA I WOULD HAVE HAD MORE LIGHT READINGS IN THE ROOM I WOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING OKAY WELL I NEED TO JUST GO CHECK OUT THAT SENSOR INSTEAD OF GET WORRIED ABOUT THE ACTUAL FUNCTION OF THE CROP SO HAVING SOME MULTIPLE DATA POINTS SO WHEN YOU DO HAVE SOME ISSUE WITH ONE SENSOR THAT YOU CAN GO IN THERE AND SAY ALL RIGHT WELL YOU KNOW 15 OR 14 OF MY 15 SENSORS ARE SAYING THAT THERE'S NO ISSUES YOU KNOW SENSOR NUMBER 15 HAS GOT SOME ERRATIC DATA OR SOMETHING I DON'T EXPECT LET'S GO PINPOINT THAT SECTION AND SEE HEY IS THIS IS THIS A REAL WORLD INCIDENT WHERE THE PLANTS HAVE A PROBLEM OR THE ENVIRONMENTS HAVE AN ISSUE OR YOU KNOW IS IT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE THE SENSORS JUST JUST GIVEN SOME ISSUES SO UM YOU KNOW EVEN EVEN WITH THE THE MOST RELIABLE SENSORS YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THE ARROYO SYSTEM UH YOU KNOW EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE PEOPLE GET INVOLVED AND OR YOU KNOW A VERY UNLIKELY FAILURE SO UM I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW THAT'S ONE THING THAT ESPECIALLY IN CONTROL SYSTEMS THAT I ALWAYS MADE SURE I HAD PROGRAMMED WAS THINGS LIKE A BACKUP TEMPERATURE OR A BACKUP HUMIDITY AND ACTUALLY DID RANDOM CHECKS ON ON THE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN MY BACKUP AND MY REGULAR SO I HAD SOME LINES OF CODES AND THERE'S BASICALLY SAYING HEY YOU KNOW IF WE SEE TEMPERATURES THAT ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THESE TWO SENSORS OF MORE THAN YOU KNOW TWO OR THREE DEGREES THEN SEND ME AN ALERT THAT BASICALLY SAYS HEY YOU NEED TO CHECK ON YOUR SENSORS IS IT ONE GETTING OUT OF CALIBRATION UH YOU KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON THAT WOULD EXIST THAT DIFFERENTIAL WE DON'T EXPECT YEAH AND I MEAN YOU SHOULD ALWAYS JUST LOOK AT REDUNDANCY AS INSURANCE AS WELL YOU KNOW THERE'S A REASON YOU GET A FIRE SAFETY AND SECURITY SYSTEM AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TIED INTO YOUR FERTIGATION SYSTEM PART OF THAT IS THAT YOU KNOW NO MATTER WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE THE FACILITY YOU WANT YOUR CAMERAS TO STAY ON AND YOU WANT YOUR SECURITY SYSTEM TO WORK AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE A DEDICATED SYSTEM THAT'S NOT GOING TO GET INTERRUPTED IF SOMETHING ELSE FAILS IN THE BUILDING WE DID HAVE A CLIENT WHERE THEIR FERTIGATION SYSTEM DID ACT AS A FIRE SUPPRESSANT WHEN THE FERTIGATION LINE MELTED AND IT PUT OUT THE FIRE AFTER THE LINES ALL BROKE UM KIND OF JUST A AN INTERESTING SAD END OR FUNNY STORY ABOUT UH THE CHALLENGES OF GROWING INDOOR DID HE ADVERTISE TO DAB WITH THAT ONE GIVE THAT FOREIGN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID BUT AUTOMATIC PRESSURE EQUALIZING PUMPS ARE PERFECT I WAS PRETTY AMAZED TO SEE LIKE 165 DEGREES ON OUR UH ON OUR CLIMATE STATION I THINK BEFORE IT FINALLY GAVE UP THE COAST DUE TO SMOKE AND FLAMES

YEAH AWESOME THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT IT'S LIKE SUCH A GREAT TOPIC TO COVER AND SO MUCH IMPORTANT STUFF THAT YOU GUYS UH GOT TO SHARE WITH US WE HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME IN THROUGH THE CHAT SINCE THEN UM FORREST YOURS WAS FIRST DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOURSELF OFF MU AND UH AND ASK SETH AND JASON DIRECTLY OR I CAN ASK FOR YOU IF UH IF SIGNALS ARE BAD SURE I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THE FIRST AND LAST TWO HOURS OF WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE ON AND IF PLANTS RECEIVE THE SAME SIGNAL FROM FEEDS DURING THESE TIMES

SO UH YOU KNOW PHOTOSYNTHESIS TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO ACTUALLY GET GOING UM YOU KNOW CANNABIS PLANTS SPECIFICALLY I'VE HEARD I'VE SEEN INFORMATION AS FAR AS IN BETWEEN YOU KNOW 30 AND 45 MINUTES FOR WHEN THE PLANTS FINALLY WAKE UP AND PHOTOSYNTHETIC ACTIVITY IS IS UP TO DAYTIME NORMALS UM AND SO YOU KNOW WE LIKE TO SEE THOSE PLANTS START GETTING HUNGRY UH BEFORE WE START FEEDING THEM AND THAT'LL JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU YOU KNOW YOU'RE VERY ACTIVE PLANT BY THE TIME THAT YOU BEGIN TO IRRIGATE AND IT'LL MAKE THAT IRRIGATION GIVE IT A NICE GROWTH SIGNAL IF YOU WILL UM YEAH I MEAN BASICALLY IF WE PUT ON WATER TOO EARLY IN THE MORNING THE PLANT'S NOT GOING TO UPTAKE IT AS FAST SO IT'S KIND OF MORE OF AN EFFICIENCY ISSUE WHERE WHEN WE'RE CROP STEERING WE WANT AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE PLANT SO WE WANT TO PUT WATER ON AND HAVE IT BE UPTAKEN WE DON'T WANT TO SIT AND STAGNATE IN THE POT AND YOU KNOW WAITING TWO HOURS BEFORE LIGHT'S ON MEANS THAT THE PLANT IS RESPIRATING IT'S TRANSPIRING EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING ROLLING GOOD IT'S READY TO TAKE UP THOSE WATER AND NUTRIENTS AND THEN IN THE EVENING BASICALLY PULLING BACK TWO HOURS BEFORE LIGHTS OFF THAT MAKES SURE THAT OUR OVERNIGHT DRYBACK IS KICKED IN AND WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF GENERATIVE STRESS ON THAT YOU KNOW IF WE JUST KEEP KEPT WATERING IT ALL NIGHT AND KEPT THAT WATER CONTENT SUPER HIGH WE WOULDN'T GET GOOD OXYGEN INFILTRATION TO THE ROOTS WE'D HAVE THAT CLASSIC OVER WATERED PLANT YEAH ANOTHER REASON I JUST DON'T LIKE TO IRRIGATE TOO CLOSE TO LIGHTS OFF IS UH YOU KNOW A HUMIDITY SPIKE THAT MOST GROWERS ARE TRYING TO COMBAT YOU KNOW VIA KICKING ON THEIR DEHUMES A LITTLE BIT EARLIER BEFORE LIGHTS OFF AND IT'S DEFINITELY PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE UM BRUTAL WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING HP ASSES JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BURNING OFF SO MUCH HUMIDITY DURING THE DAY BUT IF WE'RE IRRIGATING THAT LATE WE'RE JUST INTRODUCING A BUNCH OF UNWANTED PROBLEMS UH WATER WISE BOTH IN THE ROOT ZONE AND IN THE ENVIRONMENT YEP AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PLANT'S PULLING WATER OUT OF THE POT NOT UH IT'S JUST EVAPORATING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE THAT EXTRA WATER IN THE ROOM OVERNIGHT

OF COURSE DID WE ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ANYTHING TO ADD YEAH I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WAS LIKE A TIME WHEN I CAN ADD A SUPPLEMENTAL FEED TO WHERE IT WON'T AFFECT THE WAY IT USUALLY DOES THAT'S ALL UH NO NOT REALLY THOSE BUFFER ZONES ARE REALLY WHAT PRESERVE THAT OVERNIGHT DRYBACK YOU KNOW THAT'S KIND OF YOU KNOW THE GENERAL RULE OF THUMB IS IF WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE SUPPLEMENTALS THEN YOU KNOW MAYBE WE NEED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SIZE SUBSTRATE OR WE WANT TO BE GROWING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SIZED PLANT IN THAT SUBSTRATE AWESOME THANK YOU FOREST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTION UM YEAH THE CHAT THE CHAT'S LIVELY RIGHT NOW WE GOT A QUESTION FROM OUR GOOD FRIEND BILBO BILBO YOU WANT TO UNMUTE YOURSELF OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ASK I CAN ASK IT GO FOR IT HEY THANKS FOR YOUR TIME GUYS IS IT FEASIBLE TO CROP STEER IN 1 332 MIL OR 0.35 US GALLON TRUNCATED PYRAMID POTS IN MY HIGHEST EEC SUBSTRATE THAT'S THE QUESTION AND TO GIVE SOME CONTEXT I FEEL THE ANSWER IS YES THE REST OF MY TEAM DOESN'T SEEM TO FEEL THE TANK THE EXACT SAME WE DO HAVE THE CAPACITY TO IRRIGATE AS WE SEE FIT I WANT TO KEEP THE LABOR COSTS DOWN BY AVOIDING A TRANSPLANT AS THESE ARE THE SAME SIZE POTS THAT THEY WERE STEERED THROUGH VEG THESE PLANTS HAVE BEEN TOPPED AT LEAST TWICE BECAUSE THEY WERE GROWING SO AGGRESSIVELY UNDER 300 PPFD THE PLANT DENSITY PLANT FOR THE FLOWER ROOM IS 14 PLANTS WELL THAT'S BASICALLY HOW MANY WE HAVE SPREAD OUT OVER THE LIGHTS WE HAVE IN THE ROOM AND YEAH I JUST I'D LOVE TO GET IT SUPPORTS MY HYPOTHESIS OR NOT I'D LOVE TO GET SOME INSIGHT YEAH I MEAN IT'S IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE TO BE HONEST IT'S AS LONG AS YOUR PLANTS AREN'T TOO BIG FOR THAT MEDIA SIZE YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY UH CROP STEER WITH IT EVEN WITH THE HIGH CEC SUBSTRATE YOUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS JUST GOING TO BE YOU KNOW KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE STACKING EC A LOT QUICKER INSIDE THAT MEDIA AND THEN MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE MAINTAINING ENOUGH RUNOFF TO FLUSH IT OUT REGULARLY RIGHT AND THEN WITH THAT SAID THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW WE'RE BASICALLY NOT GOING TO RUN OUT OF IRRIGATION FLUID ANYMORE AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE SOMEONE TO BE THERE TO TOP IT UP I FEEL LIKE EVEN WATCHING THE GRAPHS OVER THE PAST RUN WITH THAT HIGH CEC SUBSTRATE YOU KNOW WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH VEG OR GENERATIVE STEERING AT DIFFERENT MORPHOLOGICAL STAGES OF THE PLANT LIFE IT NEVER GOT OUT OF HAND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE SURPLUS OF COCOA THAT'S IN THERE OR THE AMOUNT OF PERLITE THAT'S IN THERE LIKE IT'S IT'S FAIRLY WELL DRAINING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE DRYBACKS SO THAT'S KIND OF ACTUALLY WHY I'M LEANING TOWARDS EVEN A SMALLER SIZE SUBSTRATE EFFECTIVELY OUR OUR CURRENT RUN IN THAT SAME ROOM HAS

PROBABLY TWICE THE SIZE OF A POT AND THE PLANTS HAD TO BE OVER BADGED BECAUSE OF SOME CLERICAL ERRORS ON MY PART SO I GUESS I'M GOING COMPLETELY OPPOSITE OF WHAT I'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED IN THIS SAME SITE AND YOU KNOW I JUST DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONLY PERSON SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN YEAH WELL YOU KNOW ONE THING IS I ALWAYS LIKE TO TALK WITH PEOPLE ABOUT IS THAT EVERYTHING'S BEING CROP STIRRED WHETHER IT'S BEING CORRUPTED INTENTIONALLY WHETHER IT'S BEING CRAB STEERED WELL UH THOSE ARE DIFFERENT STORIES RIGHT YOU KNOW THE PLANT IS IS REACTING TO HOWEVER IT'S GETTING IRRITATED IN THE ENVIRONMENT IT'S IN UM IT JUST HAPPENS IF WE STEERING THE PLANTS OR ARE THEY STEERING US AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE YOU'VE GOT A HIGH PLANTING DENSITY YOU KNOW ALMOST ONE PLANT PER SQUARE FOOT LET'S ASSUME THAT YOU GUYS ARE RUNNING UH YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT SMALLER PLANTS AND DEFINITELY TRYING TO TURN THOSE AROUND AS FAST AS POSSIBLE YEAH I MEAN IN THAT UH MEDIA SIZE I'D PROBABLY BE LOOKING AT LIKE A TWO WEEK VEG MAX AND HONESTLY I'D PROBABLY TRY TO JUST GO HIGH DENSITY POSSIBLY EVEN HIGHER THAN YOU'RE AT AND NOT TOP THEM AS QUICK AND TURN AROUND AS POSSIBLE YEAH AND I MEAN IN A PERFECT WORLD THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WAS SET UP FOR OKAY JUST DUE TO TIMING OF UH RECOMMISSIONING THE FACILITY IT DIDN'T WORK OUT EXACTLY AS AS PLANNED AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE TOPPED IN VEG BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY PAST THEIR THEY BELIEVE TODAY'S DAY 26 YOU KNOW AND I'VE BEEN DOING REALLY GENERATIVE STEERING IN VEG TO SLOW THEIR GROWTH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND NOT JUST LET THEM GO RUNNING WILD UM IT HASN'T NECESSARILY WORKED EXACTLY AS I PLANNED SO YEAH I WOULD DEFINITELY THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THEY WERE TALKED OH YEAH WELL YOU KNOW YOU'LL REMEMBER IT NEXT TIME I GUARANTEE IT UM FOR REFERENCE THOUGH WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABLE TO CROP STEER QUITE SUCCESSFULLY IN JUST FOUR INCH ROCKWOOL CUBES AND A FLOOD AND DRAIN TABLE AT A SUPER HIGH DENSITY AND THAT WAS THEIR GOAL IN THE GREENHOUSE WAS LOW COST OF PRODUCTION TOUCH THE PLANT AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE TURNS OUT YOU'VE GOT TO KEEP THEM AROUND TWO TO THREE FEET TALL MAX FINISHED IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE YOU KNOW RUNNING IN A TINY MEDIA THAT'S REALLY THE MAIN LIMITATION WHEN YOU'RE CROP STEERING IS MAKING SURE YOUR ME WILL NOT MAIN BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONES FOR UH DETERMINING WHETHER YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY STEER WITH IRRIGATION IS MAKING SURE YOUR MEDIA IS APPROPRIATELY SIZED FOR YOUR PLANT YEAH I MEAN THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY COOL THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT BECAUSE I I REMEMBER UM THE FIRST INSTALL THAT WE SOLD WITH THE FLOOD AND DRAIN AND I TOLD THE GUY YOU KNOW I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW YOU KNOW THAT THAT WATER CONTENT IS GOING TO BEHAVE IN THOSE BLOCKS WE'VE NEVER REALLY STUDIED UM ROCKWOOL FLOOD AND DRAIN WITH THE TERRACE 12S AND YOU KNOW AFTER A FEW DAYS I HAD A HUGE GRIN ON MY FACE AND THE THE RESULTS WERE INCREDIBLE OBVIOUSLY A LOT DIFFERENT BEHAVIOR THAN WE'RE USED TO SEEING IN A DRIP SYSTEM BUT UH IT WAS IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE OH YEAH AND IN A SETUP LIKE THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE ABLE TO STEER GENERATIVELY VERY EASY JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT YOU'RE NOT DOING THESE TINY DROPS ON YOU YOU HAVE TO WAIT SO LONG FOR IT TO WICK WATER UP WE ARE IN DRIP SO WE DO HAVE THAT UM GOING FOR US YEAH AND THAT'S GOOD THAT MAKES IT A LOT EASIER I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU FOR REFERENCE LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT STYLES OF GROWING THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO CROP STEER EFFECTIVELY IN AS LONG AS THEY NAIL DOWN THOSE PARAMETERS THAT THEY NEED TO BE WATCHING TO YOU KNOW ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT YOU KNOW REGENERATIVE SPECIFICALLY IMPLEMENT THAT TO OUR IRRIGATION WINDOW AND 22 HOUR DRYBACK COOL THANKS YEAH IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION UM WE GOT ANOTHER ONE THAT CAME IN IN THE CHAT TOO UM JUSTIN DO YOU WANT TO TAKE YOURSELF OFF MUTE AND ASK SETH AND JASON

OR I CAN DEFINITELY ASK FOR YOU UM SO JUSTIN SAYS HEY EVERYONE LOVE YOUR CONTENT THANK YOU GUYS UM I'VE BEEN WONDERING WHAT ECS SHOULD BE SUSTAINED DURING MIDDAY IN THE GENERATIVE STAGE WHAT SHOULD I SEE AS AN EC BEFORE MY FIRST IRRIGATION AND WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO STACK SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THERE YEAH SO I MEAN ONE THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EC THROUGHOUT THE DAY WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT A RANGE AS YOUR WATER CONTENT IS GOING DOWN ESPECIALLY IN GENERATIVE THAT EC IS GOING TO GO UP SO EARLY IN THE MORNING YOU MIGHT HAVE ANYWHERE FROM LIKE A SEVEN TO A 12 EC RIGHT BEFORE YOU WATER AND THEN AT PEAK CAPACITY WE MIGHT BE BACK DOWN BY LIKE THAT FOUR TO SEVEN RANGE BUT AGAIN THAT WE WE NEVER WANT TO SUSTAIN A CONSTANT EC DURING THE DAY THAT'S NOT HOW PLANTS ARE ADAPTED YEAH I MEAN ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THEM A GENERATIVE SIGNAL THAT RISE IN EC IS A YOU KNOW CREATING AN OSMOTIC DIFFERENTIAL THAT IS SIGNALING THAT PLANT TO CHANGE SOME OF ITS GROWTH BEHAVIOR UM AND ALWAYS MY DISCLAIMER ON YOU KNOW THE NUMBERS THAT WE PASS OUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DEPENDENT ON WHAT NUTRIENT BRANDS YOU'RE USING UM THAT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT DEPENDENT ON THE STRAINS THAT YOU'RE RUNNING AND IT'S GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE THE GOALS THAT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO HIT UH YOU KNOW HOW HOW MUCH CROP STEERING ARE WE APPLYING TO THIS YEAH AND HOW MUCH CAN YOU KNOW A SPECIFIC PLANT TAKE THAT'S SOMETHING THE RANGES THAT WE'RE PLANNING UH FOR STRAIN DEPENDENT UH VALUES ARE JUST PRETTY WILD ACTUALLY AND LIKE JASON SAID IT REALLY VARIES WITH NUTRIENT BRAND YOU KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT IF YOU'VE GOT A FERTILIZER MIX THAT HAS YOU KNOW AN OBVIOUS DEFICIENCY IN IT FOR THAT STRAIN THAT'S GOING TO LIMIT GROWTH IN WAYS THAT MIGHT NOT BE QUITE OBVIOUS SO WITH ONE WITH ONE BRAND WE MAY NEED TO BE YOU KNOW GETTING IT UP TO THAT SEVEN PLUS RANGE ANOTHER BRAND WE MIGHT NOT WE MIGHT WITH THE SAME PLANT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE SAME DEFICIENCIES JUST BECAUSE OF THE COMPOSITION OF THAT THAT FERTILIZER

SETH AND JASON UH JUSTIN ALSO POSTED A CLARIFICATION UM SPOKE TO THIS IS THIS BEING A 6X6 ROCKWOOL CUBES IN A FLOOD AND DRAIN SYSTEM SO ADDING THAT ELEMENT IF UH COOL IN CASE HELPFUL UM AND THEN I GUESS WHEN IS THE BEST TIME TO STACK UH GENERATIVE STEERING THAT'S WHEN YOU WANT TO DO IT AND YOU KNOW YOU DO THAT BY MINIMIZING RUNOFF ALTHOUGH IN FLOOD AND DRAIN IT MIGHT NOT STACK UP SUPER HIGH FOR YOU THAT'S THAT'S ONE PLACE I DON'T HAVE THE MOST EXPERIENCE TRYING TO STACK TO BE HONEST YEAH YOU KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE THINK ABOUT GENERATIVE STACKING WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT'S THE LOW VALUE FROM YESTERDAY WHAT'S THE LOW VALUE FROM TODAY AND THAT SUBSTRATE FOR THE EC AND UM YOU KNOW WITH WITH FLOOD AND DRAIN IT'S UH IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY UNLESS YOU DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO YOUR YOUR FEED EC LEVELS UH SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL ON HOW MUCH RUNOFF YOU HAVE AND THEN ONE THING TO REMEMBER TOO IS YOU KNOW YOU'RE WITH FLOOD AND DRAIN YOU'RE RECYCLING YOUR NUTRIENT SOLUTIONS SO THE COMPOSITION OF THAT SOLUTION CHANGES OVER TIME AND I MEAN OF COURSE I'M SURE YOU HAVE A DUMPING SCHEDULE YOU'RE ONLY RUNNING THE SAME SOLUTION SO LONG BUT UH YEAH I MEAN A GOOD WAY TO THINK ABOUT EC IN RELATION TO THE PLANT IS IN DEEP WATER CULTURE WE WE CAN'T REALLY STACK YOU KNOW AND IN FLOOD AND DRAIN YOU CAN TO AN EXTENT BUT THAT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE IS REALLY DIALING IN THAT VDC AND THEN YOU KNOW FROM THERE MAKING SURE YOU'VE GOT A GOOD PROGRAM KNOWING WHEN YOU'VE GOT TO DUMP YOUR SOLUTION WHEN YOU'VE GOT A REFRESH ARE YOU GOING TO DO A HALF DUMP A FULL DUMP IT'S CERTAINLY A LITTLE BIT MORE DYNAMIC THAN DRAIN TO WASTE

JUSTIN YOU'LL HAVE TO LET US KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION OR IF YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS UM WE DID GET ANOTHER ONE HE SAYS THANK YOU GUYS UM WE DID GET ANOTHER QUESTION FROM FOREST OF COURSE DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ASK THE GUYS

SURE I WAS JUST UM I'M JUST INTERESTED OR WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN INTRODUCING OXYGEN INTO THE BLOCK AND NITROGEN UPTAKE

UH I MEAN SO YOU KNOW DISSOLVED OXYGEN IN THE FERTIGATION SUPPLY UH IT'S DISSOLVED OXYGEN IS A GOOD THING IT'S GOING TO HELP KEEP YOUR ROOTS HEALTHY I DON'T SPECIFICALLY KNOW IF THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP TO NITROGEN UPTAKE UM AS THE AS A SPECIFIC NUTRIENT IN THERE UM BUT ANYTIME THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR DISSOLVED OXYGEN AND OPTIMAL LEVELS IT'S GOING TO KEEP YOUR ROOTS HEALTHY AND IT'S GOING TO KEEP THEM WHITE AND KEEP FROM ROTTING OUT YEAH AND YOU KNOW A GOOD THING TO REMEMBER TOO IS LIKE EVERY TIME WE PUT AN IRRIGATION EVENT ON DRIP LIKE A DRIP IRRIGATION SPECIFICALLY AS THAT WATER MOVES THROUGH THE MEDIA IT'S PULLING AIR IN BEHIND IT IT'S ALSO PUSHING AIR OUT OF THE SPACE BELOW SO WE ARE PULLING OXYGEN IN AND THAT'S PART OF THE SIGNAL THE PLANT ACTUALLY DOES GET TO UPTAKE WATER AND NUTRIENTS IS THAT INTRODUCTION OF OXYGEN INTO THE BLOCK IT'S RAINING OUT

BUT THAT'S ALWAYS HAPPENING EVERY TIME WE IRRIGATE SO IN TERMS OF NITROGEN UPTAKE LIKE IF WE'RE LOOKING AT YOU KNOW PLANTS THAT HAVE A TENDENCY TO UPTAKE NITRATE PREFERENTIALLY LATE IN FLOWER IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EVERY TIME WE IRRIGATE SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT WELL FOR SOME STRAINS FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BACK OFF ON THE NITROGEN THAT'S WHY A LOT OF TRADITIONAL MIXES YOU HAD A EARLY MID AND LATE FLOWER RECIPE AND PROGRESSIVELY YOU'RE PULLING BACK THAT NITROGEN THROUGHOUT

ALL RIGHT AWESOME THANKS YEAH THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION FORREST OKAY WE DID GET ONE QUESTION IN ON INSTAGRAM UM AND ACTUALLY I THINK IT FITS WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UM SO UH CAP AIN'T CAPTAIN ASKS WHAT'S YOUR BEST METHOD ON BRINGING DOWN YOUR EC LEVEL SUBSTRATE DURING BRIDGE STEERING INCREASE RUNOFF YEAH AT A SECOND RUNOFF EVENT AFTER YOUR INITIAL P1 SO YOUR FIRST P2 HAVE THAT GO RIGHT BACK UP TO FIELD CAPACITY AND UH YOU KNOW I WOULD PROBABLY START ONLY DOUBLING MY RUNOFF NOT TRIPLING IT OR ANYTHING AND THEN MAKING SURE YOU'VE GOT AN INTUITIVE FEEL FOR HOW MUCH LET'S SAY 20 RUNOFF IS GOING TO DROP YOUR EC THE NEXT DAY IN YOUR MEDIA

WELL THAT WAS STRAIGHTFORWARD THANK YOU OKAY AND THEN UM I THINK YOU KNOW REALLY LIKE THAT WAS ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW OUR ATTENDEES PLEASE DO DROP YOUR QUESTIONS IN THE CHAT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING UM FOR THE REMAINDER OF OUR TIME BUT UM YOU KNOW WE STARTED THIS UH HOUR TALKING ABOUT SOME COMMON ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS SEE CLIENTS RUN INTO AS FAR AS SENSOR DENSITY UM ARE THERE OTHER COMMON TROUBLESHOOTING AREAS MAYBE THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT UM THAT THAT YOU GUYS DO SEE SETH AND JASON WHEN YOU'RE VISITING CLIENTS JUST REMINDERS FOR LIKE ARROYO IS GOING TO WORK BETTER FOR YOU IF YOU KIND OF REMEMBER TO UM SET THINGS UP A PARTICULAR WAY OR OR SOME UH SOME GUIDELINES OR SOME BENCHMARKS THAT THEY CAN BE PAYING ATTENTION TO I THINK SETH AND I COULD TALK ON THIS TOPIC FOR THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON UM YEAH SO MAYBE WE JUST WANT TO SELECT A FEW THE THE MOST COMMON AND OBVIOUS ONES THAT WE GET STARTED WITH SO YOU KNOW WHERE I FOCUS ON A LOT WITH PEOPLE ESPECIALLY UM YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE HAVEN'T HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO AFFORD THE SENSOR DENSITY THEY WANT SO EVERYONE YOU TALK TO IF YOU CAN YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THEIR PERFECT WORLD THEY'D HAVE A SENSOR UNLIKE EVERY OTHER PLANT I MEAN I KNOW I WOULD BUT THAT'S NOT REALISTIC RIGHT SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STATISTICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF WHERE WE PLACE THOSE SENSORS AND HOW WELL THAT REPRESENTS THE ROOM FOR INSTANCE IF I WALK IN AND SEE YOUR CLIMATE STATION HANGING RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR DEHU IN THAT HOT AIR BLAST WE GOT TO MOVE THAT SO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THE ROOM'S LIKE WE GOT TO GET IT DOWN IN THE CANOPY NOT DIRECTLY UNDER A LIGHT YOU KNOW WE WANT IT TO BE THE MOST REPRESENTATIVE SO THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS AND THAT EXTENDS TO PRETTY MUCH IT'S NOT JUST THE ATMOSPHERIC SENSOR IT'S THE TAROS ANYTHING YOU'RE SENSING YOU WANT IT TO BE REP AS REPRESENTATIVE AS YOU CAN OF UH THE REST OF THE CROP THE REST OF THE ROOM YEAH AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY NICE YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE TIME ENERGY AND RESOURCES TO GO IN AND DO A BUNCH OF SPOT MEASUREMENTS BEFORE INSTALLING UH SOME OF YOUR STUFF AND JUST THINK ABOUT THE VARIANTS ACROSS THE ROOM YOU KNOW OR DO WE DO WE HAVE WIDE AISLES WHERE THE AISLE PLANTS MIGHT BE GETTING A LOT MORE LIGHT AND VERY LIKELY UH MORE TRANSPIRATION THEY'RE SEEING MORE AIRFLOW YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT OR DO WE HAVE A REALLY REALLY DENSE THICK CANOPY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE INTERIOR PLANTS UH HAVE IN A MUCH DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT AND LESS LIGHT THAN THOSE THOSE AISLE PLANTS SO THOSE ARE YOU KNOW JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT UH THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP IN MIND AND UH OBVIOUSLY I THINK WE TALK ABOUT MANUAL READINGS SPOT MEASUREMENTS QUITE A BIT WE TALKED ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THEM TODAY QUITE A BIT UH YOU KNOW AND I THINK WHEN YOU WORK WITH TRADITIONAL GROWERS YOU KNOW THEY GO IN THERE AND THEY FEEL THE ROOM AND THAT'S THAT'S REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT UH I MEAN TO GO IN AND FEEL THE ROOM AND WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU TAKE A MEASUREMENT THEN YOU CAN COMMUNICATE THAT WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE FACILITY YOU CAN COMMUNICATE THAT WITH YOUR STAKEHOLDERS WHO YOU'RE TRYING TO TO GET SOME MONEY FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FACILITY AND SO REALLY APPLYING THE ENGINEERING AND THE SCIENTIFIC APPROACH TO THE FEEL IN THE ROOM IS THE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF APPROACHING IT WITH YOU KNOW A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS MINDSET YEAH AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP YOU KNOW A LOT OF A LOT OF GROWERS OUT THERE THAT ARE COMING KIND OF INTO THE TECHNOLOGY AGE OF GROWING YOU KNOW LIKE SAY YOU'RE JUST NOW STARTING WITH SALTS AND YOU'VE BEEN IN SOILLESS MIXES FOR YEARS DOING ORGANICS YOU KNOW SOME OF THE TENDENCY IS TO NOT WANT TO TRUST THE TECHNOLOGY BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD A GREEN THUMB FOREVER AND YOU KNOW YOUR INSTINCT'S BEEN GOOD WELL IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT AN INSTINCT VERSUS QUANTIFYING THING USE THESE TOOLS TO QUANTIFY WHAT YOUR INSTINCTS ARE TELLING YOU SO YEAH IF YOU HAVE A COLD CORNER OF THE ROOM IF YOU'RE LIKE MAN I SWEAR I SEE CONDENSATION ON THERE SOME MORNINGS GO STICK A CLIMATE SENSOR IN THERE FOR A FEW DAYS AND SEE IF THAT CORNER REALLY IS COLD YOU KNOW START MAPPING YOUR MICROCLIMATES OUT AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT SENSOR THAT WAY YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE FALSELY LED TO MAKING IT A CONTROL CHANGE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO YOU KNOW I MEAN LIKE JUST AC LIKE I SAID IF THAT'S SITTING IN FRONT OF THE DEHU YOU MIGHT HAVE YOUR AC BLASTED LIKE CRAZY IN THAT ROOM YOU KNOW IT MIGHT BE LIKE 68 IN THERE BUT YOU THINK IT'S 84. OH THAT'S THAT'S GREAT THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT SO I IT REMINDS ME OF UM I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY MONTH THREE OF MY CULTIVATION CAREER WHEN UH JUST LIKE RIGHT AFTER WEEKS AFTER I STARTED USING SOME METER GROUP PRODUCTS AND UH I HAD THE SENSOR STICK AND IT WAS MY MY MOBILE CLIMATE SENSOR AND IT WAS JUST A STICK THAT ZIP TIED TO DIFFERENT UPRIGHTS AND SO THAT I COULD TAKE A TIME SERIES SPOT MEASUREMENT IF YOU WILL AND SO I'D LOG YOU KNOW ONE AREA FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS AND THEN I'D I'D MOVE IT TO A DIFFERENT AREA AND LOG THAT FOR TWO OR THREE DAYS AND AND REALLY KIND OF COMPARE HEY THESE SPOT MEASUREMENTS WHEN I LOOK AT THEM OVER TIME HOW DO THEY COMPARE AND OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS YOU KNOW NONE OF THE DAYS ARE THE SAME DAY OUTSIDE WHEN WE'RE RUNNING IN GREENHOUSES BUT IT IS NICE YOU KNOW SHIFT THOSE IN A TIME LAP AND SAY ALL RIGHT WELL WHEN WE'RE RUNNING A SPECIFIC PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE SEE THIS CORNER HAVE AN INCREASE IN RELATIVE HUMIDITY OR WE SEE YOU KNOW THIS CORNER HAS A LOT HIGHER LIGHT LEVELS IN THE MORNING THAN THIS CORNER SO BEING ABLE TO COMPARE SOME DYNAMICS YOU KNOW ACROSS MORE SPOTS IS WHY HAVING MORE SENSORS IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR FACILITY OH ABSOLUTELY AND IT YOU KNOW IT AT LEAST ALLOWS YOU TO FIGURE OUT LIKE OKAY WHAT WHAT ARE THE LIMITATIONS THAT I HAVE INSIDE THIS GROWING FACILITY WHAT CAN WE CONTROL WHAT CAN'T WE CONTROL AND HOW CAN WE ACTUALLY SOLVE SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS YOU KNOW UM IF YOU IF YOU DON'T QUANTIFY THAT LIKE I'VE DEFINITELY SEEN PEOPLE DO IT ESPECIALLY IN THE GREENHOUSE WORLD LIKE HEY LET'S JUST GO BUY A BUNCH OF DEHUMIDIFIERS AND PUT THEM IN THERE HOW BIG LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN DUDE THIS IS A BIG ROOM HOW MUCH DEHU CAPACITY DO WE NEED AND THEN ALSO WHAT ARE SOME OF OUR OTHER SOLUTIONS IF WE LOOK AT LIKE IN THE GREENHOUSE SPECIFICALLY OTHER OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE LIKE SPENDING MORE MONEY ON A NICER VENT SYSTEM YOU KNOW LOOKING AT OKAY WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO WITHOUT UH ALTERING THIS OR HEY IF WE'VE BEEN HAVING HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MOLD RATES LIKE WE'RE LOSING YOU KNOW WE FIGURED 20 OF OUR CROP TO IT MAYBE WE SHOULD PACK THAT ROOM A LITTLE LESS AND YOU KNOW OPEN IT UP GO WITH A LITTLE LESS DENSE CANOPY AND GO OKAY WE NEED TO MAKE BUSINESS DECISIONS BASED ON EIGHTY PERCENT OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD GROW AND THAT'S JUST THE REALITY OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STILL HERE GROWING NEXT YEAR AND NOT AT A DIFFERENT JOB GOD YOU KNOW ONE OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL IS DON'T DON'T BE AFRAID TO BE A LITTLE BIT CREATIVE UH YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY THE TRADITIONAL HORTICULTURE INDUSTRIES ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE AND STANDARD TO WORK OFF OF YOU KNOW IN GREENHOUSES AND GROWING UM GROWING BASICS BUT BUT CANNABIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY AGGRESSIVELY GROWING PLANT AND SO IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE USUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE UM INPUTS THEN OKAY WE'RE A LOT MORE INPUTS THAN TRADITIONAL PLANTS AND YOU KNOW SOMETIMES LIKE WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THE CAPACITY OF A GROW ROOM OR A GREENHOUSE THAT WAS ENGINEERED FOR ANOTHER CROP SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH PRODUCTION THAT WE'RE HITTING AND LIKE ONE EXAMPLE IS WHEN WE HELP PEOPLE START CROP STEERING A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL SEE THAT THEY RUN OUT OF DEHUMIDIFICATION CAPACITY WE'VE JUST INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF BIOMASS IN THE ROOM SO MUCH THAT TRANSPIRATION RATES ARE OVERPOWERING WHAT THE ROOM IS DESIGNED FOR UM YOU KNOW IN THOSE KIND OF CASES THEN YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO UH YOU KNOW THINK ABOUT RE-ENGINEERING OR REDUCING PLANT DENSITY THAT TYPE OF STUFF AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU KNOW YOU JUST RUN INTO A SITUATION WHERE YOU KNOW IT'S A ONE-OFF THING UH BACK IN THOSE GREENHOUSES WE HAD SOME DAYS THAT WERE UP AND YOU KNOW 107 DEGREES OUTSIDE AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A ONE OF MY FAVORITE CARS DOWN IN CALIFORNIA RUNS INTO THIS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THERE IN SACRAMENTO WHERE HE JUST RUNS OUT OF COOLING CAPACITY IN HIS GREENHOUSES AND YOU KNOW MY SOLUTION WAS I WENT TO THE GROCERY STORE AND I BOUGHT BAGS OF ICE AND I THREW THEM IN THE PAD PUMP AND THAT WAS AMAZING IT DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB JUST YOU KNOW WE ALREADY HAD WELL WATER COMING OUT IT YOU KNOW PRETTY COLD LIKE 62 DEGREES AND JUST DROPPING THAT UH EVAPORATIVE WATER TEMPERATURE EVEN MORE YOU KNOW WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH A FEW REALLY HOT DAYS SO YOU KNOW DON'T BE AFRAID TO BE BE CREATIVE AND USE YOUR MIND AND OPEN UP TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION ON HOW TO GROW CANNABIS AT SCALE RIGHT NOW ABSOLUTELY YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TRADITIONAL CORTICULTURE INDUSTRY TOO YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CALCULATING LIKE OUR HEAT NEEDS HUMIDITY NEEDS WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING IN A RANGE ON A DELTA WELL THEY HAVE SMALL DELTAS AND CANNABIS REQUIRES BIG DELTAS IS THE BIGGEST THING I'VE LEARNED YOU KNOW TRYING TO TROUBLESHOOT THESE HVAC SYSTEMS OVER THE YEARS AND UH YEAH JASON SAID THERE'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT GOOD INFORMATION OUT THERE BUT WE'RE YOUNG ENOUGH IN THE INDUSTRY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FINDING OUT THOSE VALUES THEMSELVES STILL AND EITHER THEY'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF YOU KNOW BUILDING NEW GROWTH FACILITIES AND THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THEY FIGURED OUT THROUGH TRIAL AND ERROR OR THEY ARE IN THE BUSINESS AND YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT INFORMATION THAT'S JUST BEING PUBLISHED ALL WILLY-NILLY YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE A MECHANICAL ENGINEER WHO'S PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO DEVELOPING AN HVAC SYSTEM IT'S PARTIALLY PROPRIETARY AT THAT POINT I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE'RE NOT SEEING YOU KNOW SUPER EASY UH RESOURCES OUT THERE FOR SOME OF THIS STUFF I LOVE THIS CONVERSATION I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU GUYS UM BUT THIS IS SO GREAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST TRUE IT'S TRULY AN EXAMPLE OF BEING CREATIVE AND RESOURCE SHARING UH FOR A GROUP THAT HAS ALWAYS HAD TO BE SUPER RESOURCEFUL UM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESSED SOME COMMENTS THAT CAME ON THE CHAT UM FORREST YOU POSTED SOMETHING ABOUT STAGNANT YOU SEE I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WANTED TO CHIME IN ON THIS CONVERSATION OR IF IT WAS RELATED TO SOMETHING ELSE

I WAS JUST KIND OF RELATED I WAS I WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS UM SOMETIMES I SEE STAGNANCY AT NIGHT AND I'M WONDERING UM IF THAT'S A INDICATION THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG ENVIRONMENTALLY SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR LINE FLATTENING OUT IN TERMS OF EC YEAH JUST FLATTEN OUT OTHER ROWS IN THE ROOM WILL WILL GO UP BUT THEN LIKE SOME SPECIFIC ROLES MORE THAN ONE TYPICALLY WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT A HEAVY FEEDER AT THAT POINT THEN YOU KNOW NIGHT TIME IS A TIME WHEN THE PLANTS MOVE AROUND A LOT OF THINGS AND ALSO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT PLANTS PULLING ENOUGH SALT OUT OF THAT MEDIA THAT THE RATIO OF WALT'S WATER TO SALT IS NOT RESULT TO WATER EXCUSE ME IS NOT RISING EXPONENTIALLY AS IT COMES DOWN IN WATER CONTENT SO SALT'S LEAVING THE BLOCK BUT SO IS THE WATER FLAT LINE

YEAH AND IS THAT A BAD THING YOU KNOW MAYBE NOT DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW LOOKING AT GROWING OTHER CROPS I WOULD PROBABLY CONSTANTLY BE WRITING THAT LINE AND SAY OKAY HOW MUCH IS JUST ENOUGH BECAUSE MY PROFIT MARGIN IS PRETTY LIKE LET'S SAY I'M GROWING BLUEBERRIES UM I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO TRY TO NOT STACK THAT EC UP TOO MUCH DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH STRESS I WANT TO PUT ON AND LIKE WHAT KIND OF FRUIT QUALITY I'M LOOKING FOR BUT A BIG PART OF IT'S ECONOMIC TOO IF THAT LINE IS CLIMBING AND I'M PUSHING LOTS OF RUNOFF AND BEING WASTEFUL I'M NOT MAKING AS MUCH MONEY BUT NOW WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANNABIS DIFFERENT GOALS AGAIN THOUGH THAT FLAT LINE IF YOU DON'T SEE A DEFICIENT LOOKING PLANT IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORRYING ABOUT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING THAT STRAIN IN A ROOM WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER STRAINS YOU CAN TRY TO STACK IT A LITTLE BIT MAYBE RAISE YOUR FEET EC BUT IF IT'S ONE BENCH AND YOU GOT NINE OTHER BENCHES IN THE ROOM ALL YOU CAN TRY TO DO IS YOU KNOW REDUCE RUNOFF AND STACK IT BUT YOU WANT TO WATCH YOUR PH IF YOU'RE DOING THAT AND YOUR PH STARTS DROPPING THROUGH THE FLOOR OKAY WELL NOW WE GOT TO GO BACK TO MORE RUNOFF WHICH IS GOING TO DROP OUR EC OUT AND JUST DECIDE LIKE OKAY HOW MUCH DO I CHASE THIS AROUND AND THEN REALIZE THAT WE'RE ADAPTING THIS PLANT TO A RANGE OF EC FOR ITS LIFE AND THE MORE TIME WE SPEND GOING UP AND DOWN OUT OF THAT RANGE IRREGULARLY THE MORE WE'RE JUST GOING TO STALL THE PLANT AND SUPPRESS GROWTH

I JUST HAD ONE QUICK FOLLOW-UP QUESTION UM CAN A HIGHER EC POTENTIALLY CAUSE CULTIVARS TO STRETCH DURING GEN ONE NOT TYPICALLY

HIGHER C HIGHER EC MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE PLANT TO UPTAKE WATER AND NUTRIENTS SO USUALLY WE'D SEE THE OPPOSITE IF YOU'RE RUNNING A REAL LOW EC WITH HIGH NITROGEN CONTENT DURING YOU KNOW YOUR FIRST THREE WEEKS THAT'S GOING TO REALLY PROMOTE THAT STRETCH

ALL RIGHT AWESOME THANK YOU NO WORRIES EXPLORERS YEAH THANKS FOR THE QUESTION UM WE GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS TO GET THROUGH BEFORE THE SHOW WRAPS UP BILBO BAGGINS DID YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND ASK SETH AND JASON YOUR QUESTION OR I CAN ASK FOR YOU

OKAY I'LL ASK

GOOD MORNING NAVIGATING TO THE CHAT SO THAT I CAN RECALL WHAT I

IN ONE SEC OKAY WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS REGARDING CALCIUM CARBONATE AND OR POTASSIUM SULFATE USED IN LATE USED IN LATE STAGE RIPENING AND UH THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HAD IN SPOT 11 MINUTES AGO THEN THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT CORRELATION AND THEN I WANTED TO GET THE DIALOGUE GOING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE KNEE-JERK REACTION THAT HUMANS HAVE TO DEDUCE THAT CORRELATION IS CAUSATION IF YOU GUYS HAVE SOME IDEAS AS TO HOW TO RETRAIN THE BRAIN UH OTHER THAN GOING THROUGH OUR GRAPHS AND IT'S PROBABLY TIME SERIES DATA OVER TIME UH THAT BUILT INTO A COMMENT THAT I SAID PRO VERSUS BRO YOU KNOW THAT AGAIN THAT OLD HAT WAY THERE WAS A COMMENT AROUND UH I HAD A GREEN TIME I DIDN'T BELIEVE THE DATA BUT IT STARTS OFF BY ASKING CALCIUM CARBONATE POTASSIUM SULFATE

SOUNDS LIKE YOU UH DO YOU MIX YOUR OWN FERTILIZER IS THAT AND THAT'S JUST WHAT YOU PREFER TO USE AS YOUR CALCIUM SOURCE YOUR POTASSIUM SOURCE I HAVE IN THE PAST BUT WE'RE TALKING OVER A DECADE AGO UH NOW IT'S CURRENTLY YOU KNOW POPULAR BRANDS BUT I'M TRYING TO

I'M TRYING TO DISPEL WHAT I KNEW OKAY IN A DIFFERENT PEER GROUP AND THEN WHAT WAS WORKING OVER A DECADE AGO SO I'M ASKING ABOUT COMPONENTS THAT ARE IN COMMON PRODUCTS WITHOUT MENTIONING THE COMMON PRODUCTS OKAY YEAH I DON'T SEE A PARTICULAR PROBLEM WITH USING CALCIUM CARBONATE POTASSIUM SULFATE AND LIGHT FLOUR I MEAN IT'S A COMMON INGREDIENT YOU SEE IT AROUND UM THE BIGGEST THING I SEE BETWEEN DIFFERENT BRANDS YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY THERE'S RATIOS OF EVERYTHING BUT RIGHT A LOT OF TIMES IT'S JUST MANUFACTURING QUALITY HOW CLEAN IS IT HOW WELL DOES IT DISSOLVE DOES THERE SEEM TO BE A LOT OF FILLER THAT'S LEFT IN THE TANK IN MY LINES AFTER I RUN IT RIGHT YOU KNOW OTHERWISE I MEAN AT THIS POINT THE UH FERTILIZER GAME HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH BETTER THAN LET'S SAY 10 15 YEARS AGO THAT'S JUST RIDICULOUS THERE WAS CLEAR PROBLEMS THEN EXACTLY SORRY THEY WEREN'T EVEN CLEAR THEY WERE MURKY

YEAH THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO PUT IT UM OKAY SO THE KNEE JERK REACTION I MEAN YOU GUYS ARE IN A TECH FORD ORGANIZATION SCIENCE-BASED DATABASE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PARENT CODE HOW DO YOU GUYS FIGHT THAT OR OR COMBAT THAT

I ASK PEOPLE OF SCIENCE TO TO TO NOT HAVE THAT KNEE-JERK REACTION OH THIS MUST BE THE REASON I MEAN I JUST GO BACK TO THE SCIENTIFIC PROCESS UH LET'S APPLY AN A B TEST AND LIMIT AS MANY KNOWN VARIABLES AS POSSIBLE IN THAT A B TEST AND IF YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE AS MANY VARIABLES IDENTIFIED AS POSSIBLE AND WE'RE ANALYZING THEM AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW CONTROL WITH OUR EC CONTROL WITH WATER CONTENT CONTROL WITH AMOUNT OF LIGHTING MAYBE WE JUST WANT TO TRY A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VPD WELL LET'S NOT CHANGE TEMPERATURE AND HUMIDITY LET'S JUST MAKE A CHANGE TO SAY HUMIDITY FOR THAT STRAIN AND RUN A B WHERE YOU'VE GOT HOW YOU DID IT AND THEN YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT A CHANGE IN THAT VARIABLE MIGHT DO UM AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU JUST DOCUMENT THE HELL OUT OF IT TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES DURING THE ENTIRE THING AND THEN YOU KNOW EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE LIKE YOU CATCH SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T EXPECT AND YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE UM SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS IN YOUR CROWS DO SOME TIME LAPSE FOOTAGE OF HOW THOSE PLANTS ARE GROWING AND THE MORPHOLOGY YOU KNOW MAYBE YOU'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW LONG TO STACK FOR FOR A SPECIFIC STRAIN GO BACK MAKE IT TIME SERIES SEE HOW THOSE PLANTS WERE RESPONDING TO THE THE DIFFERENT UM THE DIFFERENT CHANGES THE A VERSUS THE B AND UH YOU KNOW I THINK SO MANY OF US IT'S LIKE WE LEARN SOMETHING AND WE GET REALLY REALLY EXCITED TO APPLY IT AND UH THAT MAKES ME JEALOUS OF FACILITIES THAT HAVE YOU KNOW 50 ROOMS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S WAY EASIER FOR THEM TO MAKE FAST IMPROVEMENTS OR CHANGES BECAUSE THEY CAN DO A ONE VARIABLE CHANGE ON A ROOM YOU KNOW THEY'RE ALL RIGHT WELL WE'RE PLANTING THE ROOM EVERY DAY OR THREE ROOMS A DAY WELL LET'S DO ONE ROOM AS OUR A OUR CONTROL VARIABLE LET'S DO ROOM UM BE WITH THAT MINOR MODIFICATION AROUND THEM RIGHT YOU KNOW RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER UH A LOT OF FACILITIES DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY YOU KNOW WE'RE THERE IT'S LIKE ALL RIGHT WELL WE GOTTA WE GOTTA DO A B TEST BUT I HAVE A FIVE UM THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT ROOM LIKE YOU KNOW MAYBE I'M RUNNING ONLY YOU KNOW TWO OF THOSE ROOMS WELL IT'S A HUGE INVESTMENT TO DO A SMALL MODIFICATION JUST FOR A HYPOTHETICAL PROOF IF YOU WILL YEAH OH YEAH ABSOLUTELY YOU KNOW AND I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT ONE THING I'LL GET PEOPLE TO DO PRETTY FREQUENTLY WHEN THEY QUESTION LIKE THE SENSORS AND STUFF BECAUSE I'M LIKE HEY LET'S DO SOME EXERCISES GO GRAB SOME PLANTS GRAB YOUR ATMOS HAVE SOMEONE JUST HANG THAT ATMOS UP YOU WALK BY IT THEN GO LOOK AT THE COMPUTER AND TELL ME WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE DID YOU THINK IT WAS AND WHAT DID THAT SAY AND IT MIGHT BE CLOSE BUT YOU KNOW JUST KIND OF UH GET USED TO THE IDEA THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING ANALYTICALLY AND ALSO A PART OF YOU KNOW AGRICULTURAL SCIENCE IS NOT ESPECIALLY IN THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT GRAPHING LIKE THIS THE VALUE IS NOT ALWAYS IN LET'S SAY THE SYSTEM'S ABILITY TO PREDICT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW IT'S IN YOUR ABILITY TO UTILIZE IT AND LOOK BACK NOT JUST AT YESTERDAY BUT AT THAT WHOLE LAST RUN YOU KNOW LIKE 100 AGREE WITH THAT I I FIND THAT UH YOU KNOW MENTORING OR LEADING A CHARGE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO DO HAVE A TON OF BRO EXPERIENCE AND BRINGING THEM INTO PRO IT'S IT'S ALWAYS REITERATING HEY YOU KNOW GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR HISTORICAL GRAPHS THAT HISTOGRAM IS THERE TO HELP YOU SEE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SEEING BASED ON YOUR CROP REGISTRATIONS DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND WHAT WAS CHANGING THE MORPHOLOGY WHAT'S GOOD WHAT'S BAD DO YOU REMEMBER THAT DAY LET'S LOOK AT OUR NOTES I 100 AGREE I THINK IT IS IT TIES IN NICELY TO THE AGAIN PRO VERSUS PRO AND SOMETHING THAT I FOUND THAT REALLY HELPED ME UH START THAT BRIDGE OR AT LEAST BUILD IT FROM A QUANTITATIVE SIDE TO PEOPLE WHO MAY BE MORE QUALITATIVE IS I FOUND SOME GREEK WORDS KAIROS AND KRONOS SO KAIROS BEING THE HOW DID IT FEEL THE QUALITATIVE AND CHRONOS BEING THIS IS THE BINARY THE ZEROS AND ONES WHAT HAPPENED AND I FIND THAT WHEN YOU ASK SOMEONE OKAY WHAT'S YOUR KAIROS ON LEAF TEMPERATURE OR PEST PRESSURE OR THIS IT PUTS IT INTO THEY ALREADY KNOW IN OUR ORGANIZATION THEY ALREADY KNOW THAT I'M LOOKING FOR A NUMBER BUT WE CAN POSSIBLY TIE THAT NUMBER TO HOW YOU FELT ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS JUST AS MUCH AS YOU KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION WE'RE HAVING TO IMPLEMENT NEW WAYS OF THINKING TO AN ENTIRE INDUSTRY THAT PRECEDES THIS RECENT DEVELOPMENT OF TECH THIS IS IT'S CHALLENGING I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO WRAP IT INTO OH YEAH AND I MEAN YOU KNOW ANOTHER THING I TELL PEOPLE IS LIKE HEY WE'RE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDST OF AN EVOLUTION WHERE THIS IS GOING FROM LARGELY A BOUTIQUE INDUSTRY TO A COMMERCIAL ONE AND YOU'VE GOT TO DECIDE WHERE YOU WANT TO SURVIVE AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT YOU KNOW IT THE DAYS OF HAVING YOUR BASEMENT MAKE YOU MONEY ARE KIND OF OVER SO ARE YOU YOU KNOW ARE YOU GOING IN WITH A BOUTIQUE STRATEGY WE'RE GOING FOR THE TOP QUALITY BUD WE CAN YOU KNOW YIELDS ARE IMPORTANT KIND OF OR ARE WE LOOKING AT LIKE ALL RIGHT HOW ARE WE TURNING AS MUCH GREEN AS POSSIBLE OUT OF THIS SPACE AND IT'S YOU KNOW FOR SOME OF THE OLDER GROWERS THAT ARE LIKE HAVE THAT PASSION FOR THE PLANT YOU GOTTA THAT'S WONDERFUL THAT'S GREAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GREAT PASSION FOR THEIR TOMATOES TOO BUT THEY AREN'T FARMERS BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO EAT THEIR TOMATOES AT HOME AND WHEN YOU YOU KNOW PUT THE IDEA OF LIKE OKAY TO DO THIS AT SCALE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THE TOMATOES LOVE ANYMORE IF THAT IS NOT APPEALING YOU MIGHT NOT BE LIKE A GOOD FIT FOR A BIGGER GROW YOU KNOW SOMEONE LIKE THAT MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT STARTING THEIR OWN LIKE YOU KNOW MICRO GROW AND GETTING A SMALL LICENSE OR TRYING TO GO INTO THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY

THANKS FOR THE COLOR BILBO YOU ALWAYS ASK SUCH GREAT QUESTIONS THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE DIANE IS ON WITH US HE HAD TWO QUESTIONS DYING I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET TO THOSE BEFORE THE END OF THE SHOW DIANE CAN YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU

I'M THINKING I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR THEM ALL RIGHT HERE'S THE FIRST ONE AND IT ACTUALLY TIES INTO WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH BILBO HOW CAN I EXPLAIN TO MY BOSS THAT VPD AND NIGHT IT'S IMPORTANT WITH SIMPLE WORDS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE PLANT AT NIGHT UH YEAH IT IS IMPORTANT I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL THAT IT'S QUITE AS IMPORTANT AS YOUR DAYTIME VPD UM THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE LENIENCY THERE SINCE THE PLANT ISN'T TRYING TO OPTIMIZE ITS GROWTH RATE AT NIGHT UH YOU KNOW WE DO SEE VERY SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED TRANSPIRATION RATES AT NIGHT UH OBVIOUSLY YOU DO WANT TO KEEP IT WITHIN SAFE RANGES YOU KNOW IF WE'VE GOT VPD UP AT TWO AT NIGHT THE PLANT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT AND IF WE'VE GOT A VPD AT SAY 0.5 WHEN UH YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE IN FLOWER AT NIGHT IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN IDEAL SO UM

YEAH YOU KNOW WE WANT TO STAY IN RANGE AND IF YOU'RE LIKE TALKING TO UH LIKE EXPLAIN YOUR BOSS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT DO YOU HAVE MOLD YOU KNOW IF AFTER WEEK SIX OR SO YOUR VPD SLIPS BELOW 1.1 OR 1.0 AT NIGHT THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE YOUR CROP IS GOING TO START MOLDING ESPECIALLY IF THAT'S SUSTAINED THROUGHOUT THE LAST FEW WEEKS SO VPD AT NIGHT IS IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW AVOIDING MOLD SO WE CAN'T GO TOO LOW AND THEN ALSO THERE'S THE EFFICIENCY PART OF IT SO AS JASON'S SAYING IF YOU'RE WAY HIGH VPD AT NIGHT THAT'S A LITTLE TOUGH ON THE PLANT YOU KNOW IF WE'RE RUNNING LIKE A TWO TO FIVE AT NIGHT THAT'S ALSO NOT GOING TO BE VERY WATER EFFICIENT SO WE'RE FINDING THAT BALANCE BETWEEN YOU KNOW HOW HARD IS THE AIR PULLING WATER UP THROUGH THE PLANT AND THEN ALSO LIKE WHEN WE GET TO RIPENING IT'S GOT TO PULL ENOUGH WATER UP WE GOT TO AVOID MOLD BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT GENERATIVE STRESS ON TILL THE NEXT DAY SO THEY'RE ALL LITTLE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE AND LIKE VPD FOR INSTANCE ESPECIALLY YOUR DAYTIME VPD IF YOU CAN'T GET THAT UP YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE YOUR DRYBACKS YOU KNOW LIKE IF YOU'RE NEW TO CROP STEERING AND YOU'RE GOING WHY CAN'T I I CAN ONLY GET A 10 DRIVE BACK EVER AND I'M IN A GALLON AND A HALF POT LIKE OKAY HOW HOW HUMID IS IT IN THERE WHAT IS YOUR VPD ARE YOU ACTUALLY IN A RANGE WHERE THAT PLANT WANTS TO GROW AND IF YOU'RE NOT THE PLANT'S NOT GOING TO GROW

FANTASTIC THANK YOU GUYS AND THEN LET'S GET TO DIANE'S LAST NEXT QUESTION WHICH WILL BE OUR LAST UM SHOULD I STOP THE NITROGEN NITROGEN TOTALLY IN THE END OF FLOWER OR WILL MY PLANTS STILL NEED SOME NITROGEN AT THE END IT DEPENDS WHAT THE END MEANS UH YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY IN TIME FRAME OF THE PLANTS YOU KNOW I SEE A NUMBER OF NUTRIENT BRANDS OUT THERE THAT YOU KNOW THEIR FLOWER FORMULAS ARE VERY LOW IN NITROGEN SO

YEAH YOU DON'T NEED TO TOTALLY DROP IT OUT PLANTS STILL NEED A LITTLE BIT THE THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT DIFFERENT PLANTS ARE ESPECIALLY DIFFERENT STRAINS ARE VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO PREFERENTIAL NITRATE UPTAKE SO WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO RIPEN THAT PLANT UH THE IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THAT NITROGEN ONCE IT GETS IN THE PLANT SOMEONE ACTS LIKE OXEN IT CAUSES CELLS TO ELONGATE AND THE PLANT TO GROW VEGETATIVELY WELL WE DON'T WANT THAT SO IF THERE'S A HIGH NITROGEN CONCENTRATION AND THAT PLANT IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO UPTAKING IT THAT'S WHEN WE MIGHT SEE YOU KNOW SOME OF THOSE WHITE PISTILS DOWN TO WEEK SIX SEVEN EIGHT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT REVENGE GROWTH BUT IN GENERAL MOST PLANTS WILL ONLY TAKE UP WHAT THEY NEED AND LET THE REST GO RIGHT BY THEM SO IT'S HIGHLY STRAIN DEPENDENT AND I'VE NOTICED THAT DOING THAT YOU KNOW BASICALLY IF YOU'VE EVER WE'RE OF THE SCHOOL WHERE YOU DID A TWO-WEEK FLUSH AT THE END YOU WERE DOING THAT ANYWAYS AND WHEN YOUR PLANTS WERE SHOWING COLORS AKA DYING THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD NO NITROGEN OR ANYTHING ELSE TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES WITH SO I DON'T RECOMMEND FULLY DROPPING IT OUT JUST BACK IT OFF SLOWLY AND THEN YEAH JUST REMEMBER CERTAIN DIFFERENT STRAINS ARE GOING TO BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW EVERYTHING WE TALK ABOUT HERE IS A SET OF TOOLS AND IT'S MORE ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO USE THEM AND WHEN THAN SAYING THERE IS A HARD RULE ON THIS OR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS AN EXCEPTION FOR I MEAN OTHER THAN VPD AND MOLD I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT AND EVEN THAT MAN I KNOW JASON'S SEEN A FEW MOLDY GREEN HOUSES IN HIS DAY AND MAN THAT YOU'LL HAVE ONE BENCH OF A PLANT THAT'S JUST LIKE YOU LET'S THROW IT ALL AWAY LIKE AND THEN THE BENCH NEXT TO IT NOTHING GOT A COMPLETELY RESISTANT PLANT SO EVEN THERE LIKE IT WAS THE GREEN CRACK OH YEAH YEAH THAT ONE COULDN'T GO IN THAT CORNER NOPE OR AT THE FRONT OR IN THE MIDDLE

AWESOME YEAH GREEN CRACK ALWAYS PROBLEMATIC DIANE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS MY GOODNESS WHAT A GREAT SHOW MANDY THANK YOU FOR CO-MODERATING WITH ME WE GOT ANYTHING ELSE WE GOOD TO GO I THINK WE'RE ALL SET YEAH THANK YOU GUYS FOR ANOTHER GREAT SHOW YEAH SETH AND JASON YOU KILLED IT AS USUAL THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR WISDOM UM AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO JOINED US FOR THIS WEEK'S EDITION OF ARROYO OFFICE HOURS LIVE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ARROYO YOU KNOW BOOK A DEMO LET'S LET'S SEE HOW LORIA CAN HELP YOUR COMMERCIAL CULTIVATION AND THEN GOING FORWARD LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANY TOPICS YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO COVER IN A FUTURE OFFICE HOUR SESSION UM SEND US A MESSAGE UH OVER THE CHAT SHOOT US AN EMAIL AT SUPPORT.ORG METERGROUP.COM OR SEND US AN INSTAGRAM DM WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU WE RECORD EVERY SESSION WE'LL EMAIL EVERYBODY IN ATTENDANCE A LINK TO THE VIDEO FROM TODAY'S DISCUSSION IT'LL ALSO LIVE ON THE ARROYA YOUTUBE CHANNEL BE SURE TO LIKE SHARE AND SUBSCRIBE WHILE YOU'RE THERE AND SPREAD THE WORD THANK YOU EVERYBODY SEE YOU NEXT TIME