Kaisha: All right.

It's Thursday at 4:20 PM Eastern.

That means it's time for office hours, aROYA's weekly
session for cultivators to hear from the experts and talk

to each other about what they're seeing in their grows.

My name's Kaisha, and I'm here in Pullman,
Washington co-moderating with my good friend Mandy.

Mandy, how you doing?

Mandy: Kaisha, how's it going?

Super excited to be here for episode 42.

Yeah, I'm also here in Pullman, just in a different room.

We got sound going on in a bunch of different rooms.

We're also going live over on YouTube.

So I'll be monitoring for your questions over there.

Don't be afraid to go ahead and send those over.

Make sure you're following us on Instagram and TikTok.

I'm here to remind you.

To but you guys know how we do it.

Let's go ahead and get to those
crops during questions that we got

Kaisha: this week.

Back to you, Kaisha.

Awesome.

Thank you Mandy.

Yeah, if you have any questions here, you're live
with us, be sure to drop 'em in the chat at any time.

If your questions pick, we'll go ahead and ask for
you and then also drop your email address in the

chat to be entered into a drawing for some swag.

Jason.

Hey, how are you?

Great.

It's so weird to be able to just like turn to you.

I'm gonna have to consciously do that.

Are you ready for our first question?

Jason: Sure.

Kaisha: I love this question cuz it's a really
good overview for us to start with at Pen Bugs

wrote in, this is from Instagram, they wanna
know, does 25% runoff mean 25% of what's going in?

Can you explain runoff properly for us, please?

Jason: Yeah.

So I guess.

Where I wanna start is, you know, what is properly.

I think right now in the industry, most
people do talk about runoff as a percentage

of what's being fed as the irrigation.

I personally would love to see us
do it as an overall water content.

Change just because that's what
we look at when we are irrigating.

You know, say, you know, we're gonna irrigate 5%
and we want 1% runoff, so it'd be a lot easier to

track because we're not having to do an additional
multiplier to get what that runoff value is.

So pretty much.

Everything which you're reading of, and if it
is up at 25%, also gonna guarantee you that's

in relationship to the size of the feed.

So do keep that in mind.

I have always wanted to kind of just write up
a document and talk about why it would be nice

if we can standardize this in the industry.

Obviously some things have made great movement,
like looking at EC rather than PPM of.

Nutrients.

So, at some point we just all need to get together
as members that are using this information

and say, This is why we wanna do it this way.

Maybe we're used to doing it a different way, but what
helps us on a daily basis, make easier decisions, make that

more transparent as far as how it relates to our plants.

Kaisha: Yeah.

Getting in some standards.

So we can do our business and
get that profitability in there.

So, yeah.

Love that.

All right, I'm gonna keep it moving.

And Loci Turner wrote in on Instagram,
submitted two questions this week.

Really good one.

So I'll start with this first one here.

Why don't you begin P one before the plant begins to
transpire, is it to do with root pressure and guttation?

Jason: You know, we don't see guttation a lot
and I doubt we would see it in the morning.

Specifically.

The reason that we do start is just to allow the
plant to get up to transpiration so that it's

pulling as hard as it can when we do give it water.

It works is one good reason.

You know, if you do start a little bit
earlier, we're probably not gonna see

any detrimental effects to the plants.

But we may not be able to achieve quite as
fast of growth rate as we would if we do

irrigate just after transpiration begins.

So, some of the studies that I've seen with cannabis
talks about full transpiration you know, full

photosynthesis taken about 45 minutes to turn on or turn.

So after lights come on, say, you know, where
plant is ramping up transpiration rates that

synthetic growth rate that it's getting and up to
say 45 minutes before cannabis is fully active.

Kaisha: I have a silly question.

Maybe , what is guttation?

I've never heard of that term before

Jason: Guttation is when it actually water comes out
of the cell walls because they can't hold that much.

So rather than being transpired through the stomate it's
over pressured in the cell walls and actually exits.

Kaisha: I love science just
through the, through this membrane.

Amazing.

Thank you.

Learning something every episode.

Excellent.

Okay.

Let me get into the second question that Loci sent us.

When growing a strain for the first time,
what parameters do you look for in P three?

EC spikes in generative, vegetative and ripening.

Jason: Well, obviously if we are running a
certain strain for the first time, then I like

to kind of be a little bit more abstract when
I'm understanding how the plant's growing.

Think about, all right, what are the plants
that we crossed in order to get this new strain?

What is the physical output of the strain?

So we've been able to see it grow to flower
from who we purchased it from per se.

Then, you know, we might get some ideas on what
to expect and how to dial in those parameters.

Obviously if it's also the first time it's
like, Hey, is this we're trying to evaluate?

Is this the type of strain that we want to run?

So you do wanna get.

Kind of in the right path to being extremely productive.

So talk to who you got the clone from and see
if they have any recommendations just to kind

of help you get started in the right path.

As far as getting into the question specifically
with P three or dry back, as I usually,

typically refer that phase to is phase three,
that FA phase as well, is what I meant to say.

EC spikes, I probably wouldn't get too concerned,
especially if it's the, you know, first time I've

run it for most cultivars during, you know, a hard
generative push where we're say 22 hours of Of dry

back outside of that two hour irrigation window per se.

Then we'll see ECS in the 1215, maybe a little
bit higher, and really what we're watching for

there is that our EC spikes don't last too long,
and that we have regular enough irrigations that

we're not gonna miss a day's irrigation, right?

So as long as.

That that EC spike doesn't happen for
too long, that would really be the only

concern of those things getting too high up.

Best things as you can do.

First time you run a strain document, maybe even more than
you, you ever would with strands that you run lots of times.

This is simply just to get you as.

Familiarized with the day to day growth rates
when you need to start doing your flip planning.

So, you know, when we come outta flower, I always like
to look at plant height especially, and maybe when we go

from generative back to vegetative bulking, then we wanna
have our plant height there as well, so we understand

here's our choke points at when we're trying to control the
plant and optimize how much volume it's taken in our room.

Kaisha: Documentation is data.

Jason: Yeah.

Yeah, my, my favorite way is obviously pictures.

Yeah.

I can capture tons of information and yeah, it is
nice to take me underwritings, like plant height

directly in the system so that you can chart 'em.

But you know, at the very least when you're
taking a picture, have a yard stick tape to

your your trellis pole in the background.

That way you can get at least some type of idea if you
don't have time to document, you know, every other day,

plant height or every other, every three day plant height.

Kaisha: Awesome.

Yes.

Excellent.

All right.

We've gotten a write in Mandy, What
do we have going on over there?

Mandy: Yeah.

The questions are rolling in.

So yeah, from Six Millimeter Beast they wrote in, what
does the little triangle next to the battery icon mean?

I think that they're meaning in the app, in the AROYA app.

Jason: I, let me look at it specifically
just so I can jog my memory.

I think it's some type of yield
or warning sign, if you will.

So, I'm guessing that's on the dashboard,
unless you're talking about the signal triangle.

I guess I could share my screen here if that made things
easier, but maybe they just wanna send a screenshot into our

support team and have that selected and we'll jump right on

Kaisha: it.

Yeah, excellent.

Get us a screenshot so we can get you
some direct customer service over there.

Mandy: Cool.

Cool, cool.

Great.

Well, yeah, we'll do that.

And back to you, Kaisha.

Kaisha: Thank you, Mandy.

All right.

King Green Beast wrote in, why do the
majority of consumers say finished product

comes out better in Coco versus Rockwool?

Any thoughts on that?

Jason: I mean, I know, I think we
dropped on this a little bit last week.

Probably because some of the product that they're
getting out of Rockwool wasn't grown as, as

well as some of the coco's, more forgiving.

And you know, we talk about this being, you
know, Rockwool's kind of like the Ferrari

of growing medias where it's gonna get you.

Some pretty awesome performance, but
it's gotta be taken care of very well.

You know, if you hit a curb on the way,
Rockwool's not gonna recover as easy.

So some of my coco would be more
like what we consider a Jeep.

It's going to not be nearly as picky.

If we miss irrigation, it's gonna saturate better.

If we.

Don't keep it above that low water content.

It does have some amount of cec, so if we make
some mistakes with nutrient mixing, then it's

gonna buffer that out better than Rockwool.

So, you know, my guess there would just simply be that.

Possibly some of the product they're getting from walk.

Rockwool growers, some of those
growers might be better off with coco.

Now that being said, from my personal
experience I can't necessarily tell a quality

difference from the Rockwool growers who are.

Addressing, you know, performance concerns.

So if they're able to keep a very tight ship as
far as environment irrigation and nutrient factors,

they're gonna produce a really high quality
product as well as something that like coco.

So, and typically you can produce actually a little
bit more out of Rockwool if you are pushing it

really hard with a very well controlled system.

So.

Keep those things in mind.

A lot of times we will talk to people when they're
thinking about switching from go to Rockwool.

Those concerns.

So, you know, take a look at your systems.

Do you operate exactly as you expect to operate?

And can we follow some of the crop
steering irrigation parameters?

Have we read the white papers from
the manufacturers of that rock wall?

All those types of things.

So, and then again, obviously,
you know, substrate ties is key.

Make sure that you have the right amount of substrate
volume for the size of plants that you're trying to.

Kaisha: Awesome.

Thank you for that.

Jason.

Just a reminder to our folks who are live,
if you have any questions, now's your

chance to get some answers from the expert.

Just one today, all right, we're gonna keep it moving.

We got great questions from Instagram this week.

All right.

Sergio Pja wrote in, I always see
people bragging about praying leaves.

Is there such a thing as too much praying?

Jason: In my opinion, no you don't.

Usually what is going on with praying
is that the plants are pretty happy.

You know, you've got ample tucker pressure in the cells, and
so rather than wilting, they are raw, nice and standing up.

And actually in a lot of times at nighttime,
we'll see the plants relax if conditions.

Really good.

A lot of times they won't relax quite as much.

Obviously we do want those plants not to always be
push and hard, but in, in a pretty decent environment.

If they are happy, they'll be slightly
praying at night, if you will.

And so, you know, for my opinion, too much
praying, no, your plan's just growing as

fast as you can possibly get it to grow.

Kaisha: I need to go my plants at
night and see if they're praying.

I've never done that before.

My two girls, I have only have two.

Wow.

Jason: Yeah.

So there's some really fun stuff you can do.

I used to use security cameras for doing time lapse videos
of my plants and check out how much they'd relax overnight.

And, you know, you can actually start to measure it and
be like, All right, well, you know, some of our families

or, you know, drop dropping three inches at night.

And we're actually working on some products
to kind of track that type of information.

If you got an.

Android cell phone.

You can throw an app on there and
use it as a time lapse camera.

Super fun.

Thanks.

And, you know, you can look at a whole growth cycle.

Shoot that down into a minute or two minutes, and
you get to see how fast your plants are growing

on a day to day basis and kinda understand, all
right, here's the times that thing really got crazy.

Or, Hey, I can tell when I got an effective generative
response from the plant because it stopped stretching.

We can see it right in the video.

So that's really fun things to do.

Started reading up on diurnal behavior.

That's diurnal.

So basically day and night behaviors of plants, and
that'll give you an idea of what the industry knows

about the effects of light, how the plant responds.

Kaisha: This plant is endlessly fascinating.

So good.

I have an old Android Perfect for the job.

Great.

Oh, right.

Keeping it moving.

Kevin Green, Kevin's greens wrote in, If I'm adding
humidity to the room and I have hard water that I'm

not filtrating, will that calcium have an effect?

Jason: Yes, it will.

So, gonna address kind of two ways in the question here,
because you're asking will it have an effect, I'm guessing

you're talking about in relationship to the plants, right?

That's gonna like, depend definitely
on the type of humidifier you have.

If it's like an ultrasonic humidifier, it's probably
not actually gonna get much calcium into the air.

So probably not a huge impact on the plants.

What it will have an impact on is your
humidifiers themselves other types of humidifiers.

If it's just like a misting agent yeah, you're definitely
gonna start to see a white powdery buildup on stuff.

It can be hard on equipment, you know, we'll
see it on our sensors every once in a while.

So our recommendation always is to use RO in humidifiers.

If you can't, or excuse me, in humidifiers.

If you have the opportunity to obviously if you don't,
then try to do the absolute best job maintaining,

cleaning your equipment at least every cycle.

. Kaisha: Okay.

Wonderful.

All right, moving on.

We are just powering through
these questions, live attendees.

We wanna hear from you.

YouTube.

What's up?

How can we help you today?

Let us know.

All right.

River City Grower, a good friend
over there wrote in a great question.

When using a soft wood meter after harvest, what are the
water content parameters you shoot for in WC percent.

Jason: Yeah.

So this is this is a great question
and I like it for a number of reasons.

One is, obviously using a soft wood moisture meter is better
than using nothing to document and test your equipment.

We have a drying cannabis, the complete guide
document right there at aroya.io/resources.

I think our team might try and throw the.

The link in here.

And it's gonna talk about Exactly, you know what?

Moisture contents that you're trying to shoot for to
one, prevent mold, so be lower than a certain amount so

that you don't have product lost from bacterial growth.

And then the other side of that is obviously trying
to keep enough water content in there that we

can maintain quality and weight on that product
not lose terpenes, other volatiles to the air.

And so, For the specifics of that a lot of moisture, content
sensors, very likely, like the one you're using, are gonna

have some type of accuracy on say, plus or minus 1%, right?

So if we're shooting for a water content of 11%,
which is very realistic, right in the middle,

trying to keep our quality up and make sure our
product's safe that means an accuracy would be.

We would be between 10 and 12.

Well, one of the tough things here when, why we
like to use water activity rather than moisture

content would be because if we are at say,
10%, you know, the meter shows 11, but we're.

Off by 1% accuracy.

Your product's gonna be down there at say
.53 .55 water activity, and that's gonna

be drier than you actually really need.

Conversely, if we see 11 on that meter, it's off by
1% and we come out at 12, we could be up in that say,

0.66 range, which adds actually above the 0.65 limit.

So that's one of the struggles with some of
the lower grade moisture content sensors.

You know, if you are using obviously loss on drying type
of moisture content, you can get a little bit more accurate

than that, but now you're deteriorating the product.

You have a longer sample cycle, all those types of things.

So obviously our recommendation is if you can, you know,
get some access to Aqualab, it's a dew point sensor that is

gonna give you an a water activity rating to 0.03 accuracy.

And so that means that, you know, you can nail that
moisture content at 11.16 to 11.28% to make sure

that you're getting the best outta your product.

So, Yeah, dug into the details pretty deep there.

If you wanna check out even more with some good graphics
that explain it better than I can just verbally get get

on that complete drying guide and read through the whole
thing and see how it can help you improve your product.

Kaisha: Awesome, Jason.

Yeah, thanks for reminding our
listeners, our attendees out there.

We have a great resource hub on our website,
aroya.io/resources, our complete drying guide.

I link to it in the chat here but
also head over to our resources page.

We have so much going on over there, so much goodness.

Okay, baby got drybacks just dropped in a question.

They wanna know what's the hardest strain
to grow in your personal experience.

Jason: Oh, well, it's been a while since
I was growing a lot of unique strains.

We had a, let's see, was we, Our sunset
sherbert was actually kind of picky.

Ironically, you know, some of those sherbert cuts
have been crossed and been extremely effective.

So that, that was one that was a little bit smaller.

And then I think I had a candy jack that was
definitely pickier than I could grow real well.

Kaisha: So, are those sativa's?

Jason: You know, I honestly couldn't tell you.

Kaisha: I know they, they're all hybrids anyway, right?

Everybody.

I'm just curious.

I was just wondering what the traits were
and I wonder what made them so challenging.

Jason: I believe both of 'em were more indica
leaning cuz they were typically short and bushy.

From my experience, I've found that the heavier sativa,
at least with the growing morphology that would indicate

that it's more sativa, say stretcher, and longer.

Typically those are a little bit less picky from
my experience, and that they'll just eat it up.

So,

Kaisha: Oh, these magical plants.

Wonderful.

Oh, all right.

We got in another live question
here, just here for the memes 22.

22 wrote in.

They wanna know what are the main ways AROYA
helps increase the quality of my final product?

I love that question.

Jason: Yeah.

So let's start at the very beginning and
talk about the ways that it helps people

stay consistent with their growing cycles.

Obviously by documenting your harvest groups,
you can take the ways that have produced

a high quality product and replicate them.

You've got enough data logged that you can understand.

All right.

When we fool with this variable a little bit,
maybe we get higher yield, but less quality.

So, Not, but with that variable.

So yeah, start, you know, starting in as early as clones,
you can start documenting some information in the system.

And then when you get into veg, we always encourage people
to use water content sensors in their veg blocks as well.

So say if you're in a four by four starter,
Rockwool cube, get some TAs twelves in there,

start getting an understanding of how fast your
drybacks happen and how much faster they dry.

They happen as the plant gets bigger through veg.

I was working with a client the other day that cut
seven days off their veg time by using our system

Kaisha: seven days.

That's amazing.

Jason: I mean, that's that adds up quick.

If we're running five and a half or six cycles a year,
getting a whole week back means that we get another

month and a half of of flowering out of those plants.

So very cool to hear that they basically just optimized the
dry back rates of their plants to know when to irrigate.

So that's that's definitely a huge factor.

Obviously we've got the documentation
factor throughout veg as well.

Keeping your environment.

On tabs, having a system that's
monitoring if your environment is on tabs.

So I think those are all playing into consistency,
which should be making sure that you are

increasing the quality of your final product.

You know, another ways.

Listen to these shows, kind of take advantage of some
of the knowledge that we've spent a lot of years and

a ton of time interacting with researchers, clients
to basically distill what has been successful.

So, you know, make sure you're dropping on these.

Take advantage of our knowledge.

Yeah, through flower, do some crop steering.

That's definitely gonna help your quality.

You make sure you are getting a timely bud set and
optimizing you know, using osmotic potential and some

differences day, night differentials, all those type of
things that we talk about to get the biggest expression

out of the plant, both physically and chemically.

So, probably could go on forever.

About how much we can help you
achieve quality with the system.

And obviously we're doing our best to keep implementing
features in the system that allow you to use it

easier to document other features of how your plant's
growing and overall, if your job's easier and you

get a little bit more time to spend with the plants
you're going to be able to read 'em as well physically.

So, that's one of my favorite things about technological
advancements was I went from being able to be in

the grow for, you know, maybe an hour or two a week.

To being able to be in the grow an hour
or two a day at least taking pictures and

trying to understand that the differences and
strains that we could continue optimizing 'em.

So yeah, use, don't feel like it's slave to your technology.

Use your technology to increase how much time you
actually have to spend hands on with the plants.

Kaisha: Yeah.

And at the end of the day, you know, we're, we always
talk about, we wanna make growers' lives easier, but you

know, we're in a period where it's about profitability.

You've got results that you have to account for, and
this kind of, this data, all this extra information,

really just helps you be able to do your job
better and ultimately have better profitability.

If you've got that consistency locked in, if you're
able to shorten your production times, all of that.

That's better for your company,
better for your bottom line, right?

Jason: Absolutely.

Kaisha: Wonderful.

All right.

We just got a question in the chat here, and I'm gonna
say your name wrong, but gta, do you wanna unmute

yourself and go ahead and ask it, or should I ask for you?

All right.

I'll go ahead and ask.

Actually, they wanna know, they're looking
to set up a meeting with the AROYA team to

figure out how we can take advantage of AROYA.

So what's the process generally for anybody
who's interested in sitting a meeting with us?

Jason: Yeah, so the best way to get at meeting as
quick as possible would be jump on aroya.Io and top

right in the system there's gonna be a get started and.

Type in your email, press get started and it's
gonna ask you to sign up for a meeting with

our sales team and why this is easiest for us?

Cause we can ask questions so that when we jump
on the meeting, we know, you know, what some

of your goals are, what facility type you are,
all that information to help make sure that the

face to face interaction on the video calls is.

Effective as possible and make the most of your time
and our time, and get you guys an idea of how much it

costs, what the set of processes are gonna be like once
you do purchase and what you can expect as an outcome

after you've begin successfully using the system.

Kaisha: Yeah.

Weta so much really appreciate you asking that question.

That's so good.

Good to walk that folks through the process here.

And thank you for joining us today.

It's great to have no folks.

Mandy, looks like we got a live question in there.

Mandy: Yeah, we did.

We got a question from Canadian grower.

They wrote in, they wanna know which countries
do our sensors work in right now, and can we

explain why they're not sold in some countries.

Jason: Yeah, great question.

So right now the radio chip that we're using, it's
has to be licensed by FCC here in the United States.

And for some of the other countries, we
haven't necessarily gone through the licensing

to Legally release it in other countries.

We're definitely working on making some changes to
the radio and trying to get licensed cuz we'd love

to start getting into Europe and some of the other
countries where people are struggling to get our

equipment but really would like to take advantage of it.

So our apologies, we are doing our best
to make it available across the world,

Kaisha: Global.

But the information office hours is global.

You can access us from anywhere.

All of our resources on AROYA dot io, you
can access us from anywhere and hit us

up if you have any questions at any time.

Because we can all learn from crop steering for sure.

Wonderful.

Okay.

So Jason we're just kind of hanging tight.

Hey, live attendees, this is your chance.

If you have any questions for Jason,
you can ask him, answer 'em live.

So drop that in the chat.

And.

Michael has a question.

Michael, you wanna unmute?

You want me to go ahead and ask for you?

I'm gonna go ahead and ask, Chime
in if you have anything else.

Yep.

Poor signal.

We get that.

Okay.

Michael wants to know what DLA do you prefer for veg flower,
and how long do you take to transition to full intensity?

Jason: Yeah, awesome question.

Obviously, I always love talking about light.

If you get me started on it, I usually go on a tangent
after talking about light for a while, because it's

Kaisha: your world, Jason.

We're just living in it.

Jason: It's one of my favorite aspects and where
we're at with with cannabis and some of the LED

technology that, that people are working on.

And photo morphogenesis, all that stuff.

Back to the question DLI do I prefer for veg and flower?

How long to transition to full intensity?

So, let's start with flower.

Usually by the time that I'm.

You know, even a week into flower,
I'd like to be at full intensity.

So 45 is a really nice DLI to be at.

Obviously, this can depend a little bit
on what your spectrum is coming from.

Your lights are they, LED, are the hps just because that can
affect the rates of your plants, obviously for hitting the

chlorophyll receptors at chlorophyll A and chlorophyll B.

Then the lights are gonna be a little better at getting
the plant to grow, even at the same DLI from a sensor.

So yeah, it, you know, if you can get up into that
45 range, usually that's a start of high performance.

And if you've got sufficient CO2 supplementation,
sometimes you go a little bit higher.

Different strains, you're gonna accept those
higher parameters, slightly different as well.

So obviously making sure you're documenting
how they how they respond to that.

For veg, I like w at a pretty high intensity.

So, you know, maybe going from somewhere like
say, you know, 15 For DLI when you start with,

and maybe up to say 30 maybe even more depending
on how big you, you veg those plants out.

And probably, you know, the, one of the most
important things that I like to talk about which

historically has been under controversy in that, is
when we go from our 18/6 light cycle to our 12/12.

Some people are like, Oh, we're going
through transplant stress and you know, we

need to baby these into light intensity.

Well, when we break down the science of it, and
cannabis isn't actually a very picky plant it's

gonna eat up a lot of light if we can get it to it.

And so if we're under an 18/6 light cycle, we we
have 18 hours that it's accumulating energy, right?

So our DLI is our intensity x by our duration, right?

So if we've got an intensity of say, 500
micromoles and we're at 18 hours, when we

transition to a 12 hour timeframe, we're gonna
have a smaller DLI unless we up the intensity.

What the plant is feeling is that it's actually lost some
of the amount of energy that it gets to continue growing.

So rather than babying the lights when we transfer
from veg to flower and looking at the intensity

and be like, Hey, we need to match the intensity.

Well, we actually really need to match the DLI,
meaning that we need to up our intensity by about 33%.

That's how many less hours that we're
getting when we switch from 18/6 to 12/12.

So we need to make sure that we make that up in
the 12 hours that the plants are getting light.

So, you know, if you're hitting them with 500 micromoles
at the end of veg in the 18/6 light cycle, then you need to

up those to say what, 6 50, 700 at, you know, at least 33%.

And so, I guess I didn't do that math perfectly in
my head, but yeah, make sure that you are getting the

same DLI when you come out of veg and start flower.

That's probably one of the things that
helps a lot of people that aren't doing it.

You know, next time I'll chat with them, be
like, Hey, yeah, we're seeing explosive growth

during that are root in and they can start their
generative stacking, steering a little bit earlier.

They have happier plants so.

Yeah, those are obviously really wide range rough numbers.

I, what I would do is keep it up in the light
intensity until you find the edge of success.

These plants love the light.

So obviously if they've got roots, it's not super
likely that that you're gonna push 'em way too hard

if you're within reason of light, light intensity.

So, Yeah.

You know, if in veg up it a little bit
every few times, see how they respond.

You know, and flower, maybe if you've got some
some R and D rooms play with the spectrums and

try and document what your lights specifically do.

If you're from a reputable manufacturer, they're
all gonna have a spectrum analysis available

from the manufacturer on that light as well.

So keep that in mind.

You know, if you're using a few different manufacturers
in your facility, like I see a lot, don't necessarily

assume that they're gonna affect the plant perfectly.

The same with with that DLI.

So, kind of just minute details,
but hope that answers your question.

Kaisha: Yeah.

Michael, great question.

Thank you so much for asking, and if there's anything
else that you wanna know, please drop that in a chat.

I have to say I Oh, here we go.

What did he, Right here.

Thank you.

I like 34 veg and a transition to the 43 through
48 range when favorable conditions prevail.

Gavita 1930s.

Jason: Michael, you should be answering
the questions here instead of me.

Kaisha: That's it all about that resource sharing.

Thank you so much, Michael.

Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, we're in Croptober.

Very exciting.

I'm not nearly as experienced with
cultivation as the rest of y'all.

Like I said, I have two plants left.

Do you have any advice for me after I fly home?

I'm really just trying to make sure
I know when it's time to harvest.

Any advice for this?

Little home growers doing it solo for the first time

Jason: When to harvest?

Yeah.

Well if you're dependent on the seasons, then
before they freeze would be a good time to do it.

Yeah.

If you're not too worried about the plants dying like I
do in my garden about this time of year the strike homes.

So, Okay.

Usually your trichomes are gonna be one of the easiest
ways to tell if your plant is ready to harvest.

You know, if you're doing something like a live live resin
or some fresh frozen type of output , probably not for you.

No, not for me.

For other people you know, just before they
search during cloudy or right as they're starting

to turn cloudy, that's when you wanna harvest.

If you are going to, to flower.

That cloudiness is gonna begin to become amber.

And you know, if you want sometimes little bit more flavor.

You know, my favorite time is when we see
about, say, 50 to 60% of those trichomes.

Nice.

In amber.

Ah, okay.

I like the white, the real clean white product.

I think there are some people out there that
are, can prefer after the strike homes get

a little bit more amber than that as well.

Starts to see a little bit of red in there.

You probably missed the ideal harvest time.

Kaisha: Okay, then I've gone too far.

Okay.

I think I'm on track.

Thank you for that.

I do have an AROYA jewelers loop.

I will be magnifying and looking at those trichomes.

I'm very excited about that.

But yeah, this is my first time doing it solo.

And they look beautiful.

Jason: And one of the things that I used
to do I had a digital camera for our

microscope at the cultivation facility.

And I would take a picture and log
the age for that cultivar as well.

So when I started to see that trichome change colors,
ideally would capture it before it even became cloudy,

and then take a snapshot every day and we could
say, Hey, you know, after we see some cloudiness

in that, let's expect to be down in three days.

And then obviously if you do a really good
job, then you know that exact timeline from.

When you begin to plant, and that
kind of comes into consistency.

Hey, if we can just control all of these other
variables, our production planning becomes so much

easier because we're not having to shuffle some of our
organization around, and we can make sure we've got our

staff prepped our equipment, you know, supplies needed
to take care of that product at the right timeline.

So, obviously if you're in a greenhouse, it takes some
amount of years to get that all documented because

of our cycle, spring to summer, to fall to winter.

Sometimes those are gonna have unintended
effects that you can't control.

You know, talking about natural sunlight suggesting
our spectrum even if we ha do have supplementation.

So, yeah indoors gonna make it a little bit more repeatable.

But I always enjoy.

Challenge of greenhouses too.

Kaisha: I love that.

Considerations for Croptober.

lucky for me.

I am my only customer, but for the
rest of you that's really great.

Run down on just this time of year.

It's just so exciting for me anyway.

All right.

Well I think that closes out the session today.

We don't have any more live questions
in, so you guys are all covered.

We appreciate y'all for joining.

Any final words before we sign off, Jason?

Jason: No good luck getting all the product down
for you outdoor growers and probably indoor growers,

keep listening in, keep asking us questions.

Y'all, our audience is the ones that makes this show work.

So that's it.

Keep keep participating if you can.

Kaisha: That's it.

Thank you Jason, for yet another
great conversation to my co moderator.

Mandy, thank you so much for that.

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Bye.