Episode 12: Crop Steering, Irrigation, Drybacks (AUDIO ONLY)
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WELCOME TO AROYA OFFICE HOURS LIVE MY NAME IS KAISHA AND I'LL BE YOUR MODERATOR FOR TODAY'S DISCUSSION A COUPLE OF REMINDERS BEFORE WE GET STARTED THIS HOUR IS YOUR CHANCE TO HEAR FROM THE EXPERTS GET ANSWERS IN REAL TIME ABOUT DATA YOU'RE SEEING WITH YOUR GROW AND SHARE CULTIVATION TIPS AND TRICKS WITH OTHER GROWERS IN THIS EXCITING INDUSTRY WE THANK EVERYBODY IN ADVANCE FOR NOT USING THIS TIME FOR THINGS LIKE AIRING POLICY OR INDUSTRY GRIEVANCES OR ASKING ABOUT AROYA PRICING ALTHOUGH YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO BOOK A DEMO TO GET MORE ON THAT FEEL FREE TO TYPE YOUR QUESTIONS IN THE CHAT AT ANY TIME YOUR QUESTION IS SELECTED WE'LL ASK YOU TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO ASK AWAY PLUS IT'S A SPECIAL TREAT WE'RE SENDING AN ARROYA HAT TO ANYONE WHO ASKS A QUESTION DURING TODAY'S LIVE SESSION SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING JASON SETH ARE YOU READY FOR OUR FIRST QUESTION FROM INSTAGRAM SURE LET'S GET US STARTED HEY EXCELLENT ALL RIGHT SO STEALTH LED WANTS TO KNOW FOR A 10 WEEK STRAIGHT WHEN WOULD BE THE AVERAGE TIME TO SWITCH TO GENERATIVE AT THE END OF FLOWER SO FOR 10 WEEKS STRAIN KIND OF OUR GENERAL RULE FOR SWITCHING ON STEERING TECHNIQUES IS KEEPING AN EYE ON YOUR PLANT HEIGHT SO IF YOU HAVE RUN THAT STRAIN BEFORE MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE MAKING MANUAL READINGS DOING SOME CROP REGISTRATION AS FAR AS YOUR PLANT HEIGHT GOES GET AN IDEA OF ITS STRETCHING TIMELINE YOU GET AN IDEA OF WHEN YOU IDEALLY ARE HITTING YOUR FLOWER HOPEFULLY THAT'S ON YOUR PROJECTED PRODUCTION SCHEDULE AND SO I MEAN IT'S STILL GOING TO BE STRAIN DEPENDENT AS FAR AS THE EXACT RIGHT TIME GOES IF YOU ARE TRANSPLANTED AND YOU'VE GOT ROOTED INTO YOUR FINAL MEDIA VOLE THEN USUALLY WE'LL TALK ABOUT ABOUT HITTING GENERATIVE STEERING PRETTY PRETTY MUCH THE SAME TIME THAT YOU'RE FLIPPING THE FLOWER AND DEPENDING ON THAT STRAIN YOU KNOW RUNNING TWO TO FOUR OR FIVE WEEKS OF GENERATIVE STEERING USUALLY FOR 10-WEEK STRAINS YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE SATIVA TIMELINES NOT FINISHING UP QUITE AS FAST BUT THAT'S KIND OF OUR GENERAL RECOMMENDATIONS I THINK YOU NAILED IT I MEAN JUST DOING YOUR CROP REGISTRATION MAKING SURE YOU'VE GOT THAT DATA TO SHOW LIKE ALL RIGHT WE'RE STRETCHING REALLY RAPIDLY NOW IT'S SLOWING DOWN AND IT'S STOPPED SO IF YOU'RE TAKING IT ONCE A WEEK IT'S GONNA BE HARDER TO NAIL THAT EXACT DAY COUNT THAN IF YOU'RE TAKING IT EVERY OTHER DAY OR EVERY DAY PLANT HEIGHT THAT IS YEAH EXACTLY AND WE ALWAYS LIKE TO RECOMMEND TAKING YOUR PLANT HEIGHTS ON THE SAME PLANTS THAT YOU HAVE SENSORS ON THAT WAY YOU'RE KIND OF PAIRING UP THE THE SAME DATA SO YOU CAN SEE THE RED ZONE FOR PERFORMANCE AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS CORRELATED TO THE SAME PLANT THAT YOU'RE TAKING SOME OF THOSE CROP REGISTRATION NBERS ON
YEP I THINK YOU NAILED IT I MEAN IT'S A ONE OR TEN THOUSAND KIND OF NBER IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT SO IF WE'RE ONLY DOING IT OFF OF 25 PLANTS ON A BENCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT DATA IF WE'RE RANDOMLY SAMPLING THERE SO IT'S ALMOST TO THE POINT THAT'S WHY WE TAKE NODE SPACING TOO YOU CAN LOOK AT PLANT HEIGHT AND THEN LOOK AT YOUR NODE SPACE WHEN YOUR NODE SPACING IS STILL STRETCHING YOU SEE THOSE NEW NODES BECOMING SHORTER AND SHORTER YOU CAN REALLY TIME THE END OF YOUR STRETCH AND START TO GO INTO BULKING
GREAT EXCELLENT OKAY SO WE HAVE OUR NEXT QUESTION HE COMES FROM CUSH ENTHUSIAST THEY WANT TO KNOW WHEN HAND WATERING WHAT SHOULD I BE AIMING FOR IN ORDER TO STEER VEGETATIVELY AND THEY ALSO ASK THE SAME QUESTION FOR IT GENERATIVELY OOH HAND WATERING I'M GOING TO STAY OUT OF THIS ONE LET YOU DO IT MY BIGGEST QUESTION WOULD BE DO YOU HAVE A DAY JOB BECAUSE THAT'S IF YOU'RE HAND WATERING AND YOU HAVE ANY SIDE KIND OF SIZEABLE GROW YOU KNOW EVEN ABOVE 500 OR A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING ALL DAY TO STEER VEGETATIVELY AND YOU IT PROBABLY CAN'T BE THAT BIG BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE NEEDING TO HIT THOSE PLANTS EVERY HOUR OR LESS DEPENDING ON YOU KNOW HOW QUICKLY THEY'RE DRYING BACK AND HOW SMALL OF A SHOT YOU'RE TRYING TO APPLY SO THE ANSWER FOR VEGETATIVELY WOULD BE YOU NEED TO BE THERE ALL DAY IF YOU'RE HAND WATERING TRYING TO GO GENERATIVE THAT'S A LOT EASIER TO ACCOMPLISH WE CAN KIND OF DIAL OUR POT SIZE SO THAT WE HAVE THAT SHORT IRRIGATION WINDOW CAN HOLD WATER UNTIL THE NEXT DAY BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL GOING VEGETATIVELY WITH HAND WATERING UNLESS YOU CAN BE THERE AND WATCHING YOUR GRAPH AND GO ALL RIGHT IT DRIED BACK ONE PERCENT I'M GONNA GO HIT IT AGAIN BUT EVEN THEN YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH WASHING ALL THE EC OUT OF YOUR POT MOST LIKELY BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO APPLY WATER IN THE RANGE OF YOU KNOW 100 TO 150 MILLILITERS TO EACH PLANT YEAH SO JUST TO I MEAN USE SOME GENERAL METRICS THERE SAY IF WE'RE IRRIGATING A THOUSAND PLANTS BY HAND IT MIGHT TAKE THREE OR FOUR HOURS IN THE MORNING THOSE PLANTS TO BE PROPERLY STEERING VEGETATIVELY ARE ALREADY GOING TO NEED TO BE IRRIGATED BEFORE YOU'RE DONE IRRIGATING AND THEN IF WE'VE GOT A STRAIN THAT WE REALLY NEED TO PUSH ON VEGETATIVE IT MIGHT BE A 8 OR 10 HOUR IRRIGATION WINDOW SO FIRST TO LAST IRRIGATION SO THAT THAT THAT'S A REALLY SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF YOUR DAY OR MAYBE EVEN MORE THAN THE ENTIRE WORKING PERIOD JUST JUST TRYING TO IRRIGATE SO OBVIOUSLY ON A SMALLER SCALE SOME OF THAT HAND WATERING CAN HAPPEN BUT ANYBODY THAT DOES ROI ON IRRIGATION SYSTEMS ON FERTIGATION AUTOMATION IS GOING TO FIND THAT OVERFLOW DRIP RATES ARE GOING TO HELP THE CONSISTENCY ACROSS YOUR ROOM THEY'RE GOING TO BE ONE OF THE ESSENTIAL PARAMETERS TO START CROP STEERING EFFECTIVELY YEP YOU NAILED IT DUDE AND I THINK WE CAN BOTH ATTEST WE'VE DRUG HOSES AROUND THE SAME PLACE WATERING A THOUSAND PLANTS AND IT DOES TAKE ALL MORNING THE THREE HOURS IS NO JOKE AND THEN GO BACK AND DO IT AGAIN IN THE AFTERNOON TO TRY TO KEEP UP IT'S JUST IT'S A CHALLENGE THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE SOUNDS LIKE A FULL-TIME JOB JUST THE WATER PRETTY MUCH YEAH OKAY AND JUST A REMINDER TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON WITH US TODAY PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TYPE ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE IN THE CHAT FOR YOUR CHANCE TO ASK THE EXPERTS LIVE I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM INSTAGRAM AND I KNOW I'M PROBABLY GOING TO MANGLE THIS PERSON'S HANDLE BUT A KETCHUP GIANT WANTS TO KNOW AS FAR AS DRYBACKS GO WHAT'S THE IDEAL RANGE YOU WANT TO BE AT DURING THE FLOWERING CYCLE
IT'S A VERY GENERAL QUESTION YOU KNOW USUALLY WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK THAT UP DOWN INTO DIFFERENT PHASES SO THAT'S THE BASIS OF HOW WE LIKE TO CROP STAIRS TALKING ABOUT HARVEST GROUP OF A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PHASES USUALLY AT LEAST FOUR TO GET STARTED WITH SO MAYBE IF YOU'RE NOT IN YOUR FINAL MEDIA YET YOU CAN DO SOME SOME INITIAL RUNNING IN WHICH OBVIOUSLY THOSE DRYBACKS ARE GOING TO BE DEPENDENT ON YOUR SUBSTRATE SIZE HOW HOW WELL ROOTED YOU ARE AT THAT POINT IT'S KIND OF A VERY SPECIFIC TYPE OF OF ACTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THOSE ROOTS TO SEEK OUT WATER CONTENT AND ENGULF THE ENTIRE VOLE OF THE MEDIA FOR GENERATIVE STEERING DRYBACKS AND YOU KNOW SAY THAT 15 TO 30 PERCENT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE IF YOU'RE PUSHING REALLY REALLY HARD IN SOMETHING LIKE ROCKWOOL COCOA CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LESS AND AND THAT'S ALWAYS YOU KNOW WITH OUR CONSIDERATION OF ASSED APPROPRIATE SUBSTRATE SIZE SO YOU KNOW IF WE'RE IN SAY A SUBSTRATE THAT'S TOO LARGE IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE THOSE DRYBACKS YOUR DRYBACK IS JUST A COMBINATION OF SIMPLY TWO VALUES RIGHT AND THAT'S GOING TO BE EVAPORATION AND TRANSPIRATION IN THIS CASE WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPIRATION IF OUR PLANT IS DRINKING SAY THREE QUARTERS OF A GALLON OF WATER A DAY AND WE'RE IN A THREE GALLON MEDIA YOU'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO SEE QUITE A BIT LESS DRY BACK SO THE NBERS THAT WE'RE MENTIONING ARE USUALLY WITH AN ASSED PERFECT SIZE SUBSTRATE SO IF YOU ARE GROWING QUITE A BIT BIGGER PLANTS SURE THAT MIGHT BE A SLIGHTLY LARGER SUBSTRATE IF YOU'RE DOING LIKE A SCROG OR MULTI-TIER SHORTER PLANTS YOU KNOW YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER SUBSTRATE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO STEER REALLY APPROPRIATELY AND THEN MAYBE FOR VEGETATIVE YOU KNOW WE COULD TALK ABOUT 10 TO 20 PERCENT DRY BACKS AND SOMETHING LIKE ROCKWOOL SLABS WITH APPROPRIATE SIZE PLANTS YEAH I MEAN I THINK GOING INTO FLOWERING I LIKE TO HIT A FIVE TO TEN PERCENT DRY VAC BEFORE I REALLY ATTEMPT MUCH STEERING BECAUSE IF WE JUST KEEP THE MEDI TOO WET WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE WITH THAT AND THEN I LOOK AT DRY BACK AS AN OVERALL MEASURE OF LIKE HOW HEALTHY THOSE PLANTS ARE AND HOW WELL THEY'RE TRANSPIRING IF WE PUT A SOLID VALUE ON THAT NBER AND GAVE YOU A RECIPE AND SAID ALL RIGHT YOU NEED A 20 DRY VAC AT THIS POINT ANY TIME YOU RUN ANY PLANT THAT'S GOING TO VARY ACCORDING TO LIKE WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL AND ALSO AS JASON SAID IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POT SIZE SO IF WE'VE GOT A TINY PLANT IN A BIG POT WE DON'T EXPECT AS MUCH DRY BACK NOW IS THAT GOING TO BE AN INDICATOR OF HOW HEALTHY THE PLANT IS A LITTLE BIT BUT YOU KNOW OVER THE YEARS WE'VE DEFINITELY KNOWN YOU CAN GROW A FIVE FOOT PLANT IN THREE AND A HALF GALLON COCOA POT AND RUN IT SUPER GENERATIVELY THE WHOLE TIME AND YOU JUST WON'T GET AS BIG OF A PLANT YOU WON'T HAVE THE YIELD SO A FEW MORE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IN THERE AS WELL AS YOU KNOW REGARDING ENVIRONMENT ANY TIME BEFORE YOU BEGIN GETTING SERIOUS ABOUT CROP STEERING IT'S BEST PRACTICE TO MAKE ENVIRONMENT CHECKS YOU KNOW CAN YOU CAN YOU PROVIDE THE STABILITY OF CLIMATE FOR THOSE PLANTS TO DO PROJECTABLE APPROPRIATE DRYBACKS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE USUALLY INFLUENCING STOMATAL CONDUCTANCE AND OVERALL TRANSPIRATION RATE IN THE PLANT LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW VPD SO WE'VE GOT A TARGET TEMPERATURE RANGE ARE YOU HITTING YOUR TARGET TEMPERATURE RANGE AND THEN CHECKING YOUR VPD TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE KEEPING THE HIDITY APPROPRIATE FOR THAT TEMPERATURE IN THE ROOM THAT'S GOING TO OPTIMIZE THE STOMATAL OPENING AND TRY AND INCREASE THE GROWTH RATE OF THAT PLANT ANOTHER THING TO KIND OF KEEP IT IN MIND AS WELL IS CO2 CO2 IS ACTUALLY GOING TO INCREASE THE WATER USE EFFICIENCY OF OUR PLANT SO IF WE'RE NOT INJECTING CO2 WE'RE GOING TO SEE HIGHER DRY BACKS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER TRANSPIRATION RATE BUT IF WE INJECT THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF CO2 THEN WE'LL BE PROVIDING THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF ALL INPUTS FOR THAT PLANT TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE WHICH ACTUALLY MEANS THAT THE TRANSPIRATION RATES CAN BE A LITTLE BIT LESS SIMPLY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO PULL THROUGH NEARLY AS MUCH WATER AND NUTRIENTS TO EQUALIZE OR IT DOESN'T HAVE TO PULL THROUGH NEARLY AS MUCH CO2 SO WE'RE NOT ABSORBING QUITE AS MUCH TRANSPIRATION THERE'S NOT AS MUCH GAS EXCHANGE IN THE PLANT AND IT CAN GROW THE SAME AMOUNT SO THE TARGET THERE IS REALLY THE HIGHEST PHOTOSYNTHETIC RATE POSSIBLE FOR ANY GIVEN ENVIRONMENT SO ALSO KIND OF COMES INTO TRYING TO ONLY PLAY WITH ONE VARIABLE AT A TIME TO MAKE COMPARISONS SO I'VE GOT A LITTLE ADVANCED THERE BUT I THINK WE HIT THE BASICS YEAH FOR SURE THAT'S AWESOME GREAT OUR NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM MICHAEL WHO'S ON WITH US TODAY MICHAEL FEEL FREE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND GO AHEAD AND ASK AWAY
AND IF YOU'RE HAVING TECH ISSUES I'D BE HAPPY TO ASK I'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK FOR HIM HERE MICHAEL WANTS TO KNOW WHAT INCOMING EC IS YOUR PERSONAL FAVORITE TO DEAL WITH AND WHAT PH DO YOU PREFER WELL IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON HERE MIKE IT'S NICE TO SEE ACTIVE IN THIS INCOMING EC AND PH SO IF YOU MEAN WHAT TYPE OF FEED LINE EC NPH SOMETHING FOR ROCKWELL YOU KNOW BEING IN THAT FIVE FIVE TO FIVE SEVEN IS A GREAT RANGE TO KEEP NUTRIENT SOLUBILITY AS EQUALIZED AS POSSIBLE SO YOU KNOW FOR ANYONE THAT'S WATCHING THAT THAT HASN'T LOOKED UP PH CHARTS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF SUBSTRATES I FEEL FREE TO GOOGLE IT I ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO CHECK OUT HOW YOUR NITROGENS HOW YOUR PHOSPHORUS IS HOW ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO BE ABSORBED AT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT RATES DEPENDING ON THE PH AND SO FOR SOMETHING LIKE ROCKWOOL SHOOTING FOR THAT SAY FIVE FIVE TO FIVE SEVEN IS A REALLY GOOD RANGE FOR YOUR PH IF YOU'RE DOING A COCO IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPENDENT ON MANUFACTURE JUST BECAUSE THE THE MAKEUP OF THAT PRODUCT CAN BE SLIGHTLY VARIANT FROM MANUFACTURER MANUFACTURER BUT BEING IN THAT USUALLY FIVE EIGHT TO SAY 6.0 RANGE WOULD BE WHAT I LIKE FOR COCO I THINK YOU NAILED IT THERE DUDE I WAS GOING TO SAY FEEDING 3.0 AT 5.6 FOR ROCKWELL IS PERFECT AND I'LL STILL GO 3.0 BUT MORE LIKE A 5.8 COCOA JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CATION EXCHANGE CAPACITY THERE AND THAT COCOA CAN ACTUALLY HOLD ON TO SOME IONS THANKS JASON DID I DID ANYONE MISS ANYTHING THERE WAS I TOO QUIET I CAN'T HEAR MYSELF WITH THESE HEADPHONES ON WELL WE'LL THROW SOME JUSTIFICATIONS IN THERE SETH WAS SAYING YOU KNOW 3-0 AND ROCKWOOL FOR EC LEVELS I DO LIKE TO ALSO CONSIDER ONE NUTRIENT MANUFACTURER IN COMPOSITION SO SOME OF THOSE PLANTS ARE GOING TO EAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON THE SPECIFIC BLEND THAT YOU'RE USING ANOTHER FACTOR IN THERE IS OBVIOUSLY STRAIN I MEAN I KNOW WE'RE SAYING IT ALL THE TIME BUT THIS IS WHY WE LOVE DATABASING GROWTH CYCLES IS BECAUSE THOSE STRAINS DEFINITELY PREFER DIFFERENT PARAMETERS AS FAR AS ENVIRONMENT AS FAR AS FEED LEVELS STEERING STRATEGIES PROBABLY ON THE TOP OF THAT LIST AND SO YOU KNOW THE BETTER YOU CAN DOCENT HOW YOUR PLANES PLANTS RESPOND BY VARIATION BY VARIETY TO TO YOUR FEED LEVELS IS A GOOD WAY TO OPTIMIZE THEM ANOTHER ANOTHER THING IN THERE IS THINKING ABOUT YOUR LIGHT SOURCE SO USUALLY WITH SOMETHING LIKE LED WILL RUN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER EC SIMPLY THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT LEAVE SURFACE TEMPERATURE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THAT PLANT IS IS FEEDING WHEN WE'RE RUNNING LEDS USUALLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT LESS WATER UPTAKE AND SO OUR NUTRIENT CONCENTRATION NEEDS TO BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SAME AMOUNT OF NUTRITION TO THAT PLANT YEAH YOU NAIL IT WE DON'T HAVE THE LEAF SURFACE TEMP TO BRING IT UP AND DRIVE THAT METABOLISM THERE IN TRANSPIRATION SO A LITTLE LESS PULL ON THE PLANT FROM WATER BELOW AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT CONCENTRATION IN THERE WITH THE EC MICHAEL CLARIFIED HERE HE ADDED A ONE MORE COMMENT PITH VERSUS CHUNK VERSUS STRAND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY ON THAT YMY WE LOVE COCO CHOOSE YOUR CHOP WHAT DO YOU LIKE WETTER OR DRYER IT'S A GREAT QUESTION MICHAEL YEAH SORRY SO DID I INTERRUPT YOU OH I WAS JUST GONNA SAY I LIKE TO YOU KNOW GET BASICALLY A LOT OF COMPANIES OUT THERE NOW ARE KIND OF HAVING A GOOD MIX IF YOU GO WITH THE MORE CHUNK YOU'RE GONNA END UP WITH A LITTLE DRYER COCOA AND THEN PERSONALLY I LIKE RUNNING A COCOA THAT WILL GET ME UP TO 55 TO 65 PERCENT YOU KNOW VOLETRIC WATER CONTENT THAT WAY I HAVE A GOOD RANGE TO STEER IN IF I'M RUNNING LIKE A COCO PERLITE MIX AND I CAN ONLY ACHIEVE 38 OR 43 YOU KNOW MAX WATER CONTENT I'VE LIMITED MYSELF TO MY ABILITY TO STEER AND HOW LONG I CAN ACTUALLY STRETCH OUT THAT GENERATIVE STEERING BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE SO MUCH WATER RESERVOIR IN THERE NOW
WONDERFUL MICHAEL YEAH THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ASKING YOUR QUESTION BE SURE TO STICK AROUND AFTER THE BROADCAST SO I CAN GET YOUR CONTACT INFO AND GET YOU AN AURORA HAT OUR NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM TERP TURTLE FARMS WHO'S ON WITH US TODAY YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF
AND IF YOU'RE HAVING ANY TROUBLE LET ME KNOW I KNOW CONNECTION ISSUES AND TECH I'LL JUST READ WHAT HE WROTE HERE IN WEEK SIX ON STRAINS I RUN OH THERE HE IS GO FOR IT HEY HOW'S IT GOING GOOD DUDE HEY I'M I'M RUNNING SIX INCH HUGOS FOR THE FIRST TIME I'VE NEVER RUN THE ROCK WELL I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A COCO GUY AND I HAVE A SENSOR IN EACH TABLE ONE TABLE EVEN WITH THREE I'M FEEDING P2 FEES INTO THE DARK CYCLE IN P3 SO ON AFTER THE LIGHTS GO OUT THEY'RE STILL GETTING HIT ONE MORE TIME ON THE HOUR THREE MORE TIMES BOOM BOOM BOOM AND I'M STILL SEEING I MEAN ONE STARTED DRAWING BACK SO SO BAD I GOT CHANNELING I MEAN IT ONLY MAXES OUT AT ABOUT 55 WATER CONTENT THE OTHER ONE THE SLURRICANE I MEAN IT HITS 71 72 PERCENT AT RUNOFF AND IT MAKES CONTENT AND IT'S STILL IT'S STILL HITTING EVEN WITH THOSE THREE NIGHT FEEDS 41 PERCENT BY LIKE BY LIGHT TIME PLUS TWO HOURS YOU KNOW SURE SO YEAH USUALLY WHEN WE'RE SEEING THIS YOU'RE GROWING A PRETTY BIG PLANT AND IT'S IT'S GROWING AGGRESSIVELY SO YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF SUBSTRATE VOLE THAT PLANT IS PULLING MORE WATER THAN YOU CAN APPROPRIATELY STEER AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU ARE RUNNING INTO YOUR DARK PERIODS WE ALWAYS TRY TO IRRIGATE NO LATER THAN THE YOU KNOW ABOUT AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS BEFORE LIGHTS OFF AND OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR CASE YOU'RE DOING WHAT YOU HAVE TO TO MAINTAIN SOME AMOUNT OF PLANT HEALTH BUT THIS IS WHERE YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT CONSIDER GOING INTO A SLAB NEXT TIME SO LIKE A FOUR BY FOUR YEAH FOR SURE NEXT FOR SURE NEXT RUN BUT I MEAN SO AS FAR AS KEEPING THIS ONE THEY STILL THE PLANTS STILL LOOK GREAT BUT I JUST KEEP RIDING OUT ADDING P3S ADDING NIGHT FEEDS INTO THE P3 CYCLE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR OPTION YEAH AND THIS IS KIND OF ONE OF THE CHALLENGES YOU KNOW STEERING WITH WITHOUT A SUBSTRATE THAT'S APPROPRIATELY SIZED OR THE PERFECT SIZE IS SIMPLY BECAUSE NOW RATHER THAN IRRIGATING BASED ON HOW YOU'RE TRYING TO CONTROL THE MORPHOLOGY OF THAT PLANT YOU'RE IRRIGATING TO JUST KEEP WATER LEVELS KEEP UP WITH SUFFICIENT EXACTLY YEAH SO SO THEN MY WHY THAT SENSOR IS ONLY GETTING UP TO 55 IS THAT'S BECAUSE IT JUST DRIED DOWN TOO HARD TOO MANY TIMES AND IT WON'T REACH MAX WATER CONTENT BECAUSE I CAN WAIT TILL I'M I'M AT FULL SATURATION FOR THE DAY WHICH FOR THAT SENSOR IS 55 56 AND THEN I HAND WELL I CAN HAND WATER ON TOP OF THE CUBES AND I CAN GET THEM UP TO ABOUT 60 61 BUT THEN YOU KNOW WITHIN A DAY THEY'RE RIGHT THEY'RE REALLY MIXING OUT AT 55 AGAIN YEAH IT IT IS LIKELY USED YOU KNOW USUALLY WHEN YOU SEE FIELD CAPACITIES IN ROCK BOWL UNDER THAT SAY 65 OR 75 PERCENT THAT'S THAT'S THE USUAL RANGE THAT WE SEE FIELD CAPACITY FOR A WELL-MAINTAINED ROCKWOOL YOU KNOW IT COULD BE PROBABLY THE TWO MOST COMMON WOULD BE SENSOR PLACEMENT SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE USING THAT SENSOR ALIGNMENT TOOL AT THE THE RIGHT RIGHT HAND BLOCK AND THEN THE OTHER COULD BE YOU KNOW SOME SOME ESTABLISHMENT OF CHANNELING OR IRRIGATION FLOW THROUGH YEAH ABSOLUTELY ALSO IF YOU EVER HAD A DRY DOWN EVENT THAT WENT BELOW 40 FOR A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME YOU COULD HAVE A HYDROPHOBIC POCKET IN THERE AND IF YOU HIT ONE OF YOUR TINES INTO THAT POCKET THAT'S GOING TO THROW OFF YOUR AVERAGE ACROSS THE THREE YEAH FOR SURE THERE'S A FEW FACTORS THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM THERE DID YOU GROW IN LIKE ONE GALLON COCOA SOFT POTS LIKE BIOCHARS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YEAH THEY WERE ONE GALLON I WAS RUNNING ONE GALLON COCOA BEFORE THAT YEAH ONE THING THAT'S KIND OF ODD ABOUT SWITCHING TO THE HUGOS IS YOU DON'T GET THAT SAME AIR PRUNING EFFECT SO WITH ROCKWOOL WE'RE FOCUSING ON THAT SUSPENDED WATER TABLE IN THE BOTTOM TWO TO THREE INCHES OF THE MEDIA SO WHEN WE GO TO THAT SLAB WE ACTUALLY EFFECTIVELY EXPAND THAT AREA WHERE THE PLANT CAN TAKE UP WATER WITH THOSE COCOA BAGS WE HAD AIR PRUNING GOING ON WHERE THE ROOTS WERE GOING OUT SPLITTING SPLITTING WE HAD GREATER ABSORPTION THROUGH THE WHOLE BLOCK NOW WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THAT BOTTOM THREE INCHES SO IF YOU GO TO LIKE A SIX INCH HUGO YOU'RE REALLY ONLY USING THAT BOTTOM COUPLE INCHES WHERE YOU KNOW COHESION OVERCOMES GRAVITY THE WATER STOPS FALLING OUT OF THE BLOCK AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S MOST CONCENTRATED FORTUNATELY WHAT MAKES ROCKWOOL GREAT IS THAT'S WHERE YOUR PLANTS ALSO UPTAKE ALL THEIR WATER AT THEIR ROOT TIPS SO A HUGE OH IT'S HARD TO FLOWER A BIG PLANT OUT OF TOWARDS THE END BASICALLY YEAH YEAH I'VE SEEN IT I LEARNED THAT I LEARNED THAT THE HARD WAY FOR SURE I'M GONNA HAVE TO FIX LAMPS UNDER HIM SO WHAT HOW WHAT'S THE MAX DRYBACK I CAN SEE BEFORE I'M RUNNING INTO CHANNELING LIKE WHAT'S THE RIDE IN THE LINE THERE WE JUST TRY TO STAY YOU KNOW ABOVE ABSOLUTELY NO LOWER THAN 35 BUT TRYING TO STAY ABOVE 40 PERCENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE A HUGO YEP GIVE YOURSELF THAT FIVE PERCENT BUFFER YOU KNOW EVEN IF YOU'RE IN COCO IF YOU COULD GET UP TO 55 I'D SAY CALL 25 YOUR BOTTOM END BECAUSE INVARIABLY YOU'RE GOING TO WAKE UP SOME MORNINGS AND CHECK THAT GRAPH WHEN YOU GET TO WORK AND IT'S GOING TO BE SO IT WILL GET DOWN LOWER THAN YOU WANTED SO IT IS A SLIDING SCALE LIKE THAT IF I'M MAXING OUT AT 55 I WOULD DROP TO 20 YOU'D STILL CALL THAT A 25 DRIVE BACK NOT ON THE ROCK WALL OR THE COCOA REALLY IS IT SLIDING BUT YEAH TO AN EXTENT LIKE WE HAVE OUR ABSOLUTE BOTTOMS ON EVERY MEDIA THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO BELOW OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO SEE YIELD REDUCTION WATER IS ALWAYS ONE OF YOUR KEY YIELD LIMITING COMPONENTS YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE 10 LOW ON YOUR WATER CONTENT FOR 10 DAYS IN YOUR GROWTH THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER AND TIME THAT YOU DEPRIVE THAT PLAN OF YEAH I THINK WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SOUTH WAS GETTING TO THERE IS THAT BLACKWOOL IS IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO SOME OF THAT CHANNELING NOT THAT COCO ISN'T BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MATRIX POTENTIAL CURVES OF ROCKWOOL VERSUS COCOA THE MATRIX POTENTIAL CURVE IN ROCKWOOL IS VERY LINEAR SO IT STILL DOESN'T APPLY ALMOST ANY IRRIGATION STRESSORS TO THE PLANT EVEN WHEN YOU ARE GETTING LOWER IN WATER CONTENT SO THAT THAT PLANT CAN PULL THAT BLOCK TO ALMOST TO ZERO WITHOUT NECESSARILY FEELING AN IRRIGATION DEFICIT IF WE USE TERMINOLOGY FROM TRADITIONAL HORTICULTURE WHEREAS COCOA IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO START APPLYING A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESSURE AS WE DROP DOWN INTO THAT 25 PERCENT AREA AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE DRAWING THOSE LINES AT IS WHERE WHERE IS A SAFE SPOT THAT THAT MEDIA CAN RECOVER ITS INTENDED PROPERTIES OR IT'S IT'S IT'S NATURALLY BEST OPERATING PARAMETERS IF YOU WILL SO THEN IF YOU IF THAT IF THAT HUGO THE SIX INCH HUGO IS IT IS RUNNING IN IDEAL CONDITIONS WHAT IS THE MAX YOU WANT THAT THING DRINKING A DAY BEFORE YOU'D SAY HEY I REALLY HAVE TO GO INTO SLABS I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE NEXT TIME P3S IF YOU'RE THERE YOU CAN'T MAINTAIN A GENERATIVE DRYBACK THAT MEANS YOU EITHER NEED A SMALLER PLANT OR A BIGGER SUPPORT WATER TO DRAW FROM YEAH FOR SURE FOR SURE SO YEAH THAT'S A GOOD LINE AND HONESTLY WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME PEOPLE HITTING TROUBLE YOU KNOW FINISHING ON HUGOS JUST BECAUSE OF THAT YOU KNOW YOU GET A BIG BEAUTIFUL PLANT THAT'S GROWN REAL AGGRESSIVELY DONE REAL WELL AND THEN AT THE END IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO APPLY THAT GENITIVE STRESS AND REALLY UP YOUR POTENCY AND RIPEN IT YEAH AND TO BE HONEST LIKE WHEN I SWITCHED FROM THREE 3.5 GALLON POTS BACK IN THE DAY TO ONE GALLON COCOA POTS SAME THING HAPPENED THE FIRST ROUND GROOM WAY TOO BIG I HAD TO PUT WATER ON THEM ALL DAY JUST TO KEEP THEM FROM DYING AND THE NEXT THING WE FIGURED OUT LIKE FLOUR AND SMALLER MATCH THEIR PLANT TO THE POT SIZE AND WE WON'T RUN INTO THAT ISSUE QUITE AS HARD SO TO I MEAN TO REGO GENERATIVE AT THE END IT'D BE NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE I'D BE DRAGGING THEM BACK TO ALL IT'LL BE ALL KINDS OF CRAZY LIKE YEAH YEP YEAH THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS TRY TO YOU KNOW GIVE AS MUCH SPACE IN BETWEEN IRRIGATIONS AS POSSIBLE LIKE YOUR P1 AND YOUR P2S STRETCH THAT OUT BECAUSE REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WE'RE NOT APPLYING DROUGHT STRESS IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE WE'RE MAKING IT HARD FOR THE PLANT TO UPTAKE WATER WE'RE JUST SPACING OUT THOSE IRRIGATION SIGNALS WE'RE NOT TELLING IT TO GROW ALL DAY
IT'S NOT RAINING YEAH IT'S NOT SPRING TIME FOR THE PLANT ANYMORE YEAH
AWESOME TURTLE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS UP WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION AND AWESOME NO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH YEAH I KNOW BE SURE TO STICK AROUND OF COURSE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MICHAEL'S COMMENTS IN THE CHAT HERE HE ALSO IS A PROPONENT OF SLABS HE WROTE THEY REALLY HELPED WITH ROCKWOOL I FOUND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO RUN WITHOUT THEM WE'RE FINDING THE BOTANICARE 6X6 COCOA CUBES ARE WORKING REALLY WELL TO STEER UNDER HPS AND LED A MIX OF STRAND AND CHUNK YEAH IT'S SO GREAT TO HEAR WHAT'S WORKING FOR CULTIVATORS IN THIS SPACE I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM INSTAGRAM WHILE WE AS WE CONTINUE ON HERE THIS ONE COMES FROM CUSH POPS IN THE MIDDLE OF FLOWERING IF DRY BACKS ARE TOO LARGE FOR P3 CAN YOU GIVE SHOTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT I I THINK WE HIT THAT ONE WITH TERP TROLLER HERE JUST JUST A MINUTE AGO WE USUALLY ALWAYS TRY TO AVOID NIGHT IRRIGATIONS IF WE CAN IF WE HAVE TO DO NIGHT IRRIGATIONS IT'S USUALLY A GOOD SIGNAL THAT OUR SUBSTRATE VOLE IS TOO SMALL FOR THE SIZE OF PLANT THAT WE'RE GROWING AT THAT POINT SO I THINK WE'VE GOT THAT ONE CHECKED OFF ANOTHER THING TOO IF YOU FIND YOURSELF HAVING TO APPLY P3S BEING ABLE TO LOG YOUR OVERNIGHT HIDITY IN VPD IS ALSO SUPER HELPFUL LIKE IF YOU IT'S PRETTY RARE MOST PEOPLE EXPERIENCE THE HIDITY GOING UP AT NIGHT BECAUSE YOUR LIGHTS GO OFF TEMPERATURES GO DOWN THE EQUATION CHANGES YOUR RH GOES UP IF HOWEVER YOU'RE ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT EXPERIENCE IT THE OTHER WAY AND YOUR HIDITY JUST DROPS OUT AT NIGHT YOUR DRYBACK'S GOING TO HAPPEN A LOT FASTER OVERNIGHT THAN YOU WANT JUST DUE TO EVAPORATION AND PULLING THAT WATER UP INTO THE AIR SO IT'S IT'S A DELEGATE BALANCE IF YOU'RE TRYING DOWN TOO HARD THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CHECK TOO IS MAKE SURE YOUR VPD'S IN RANGE AND STABLE OVERNIGHT BIG SWINGS REALLY AFFECT THAT DRYBACK CURVE
GREAT OKAY RIVER CITY GROWERS SUBMITTED THIS NEXT QUESTION THEY'RE ASKING WHAT ARE SOME KEY POINTS YOU GUYS HIT WHEN COMING TO THE LAST WEEK OF FLOWER
KEY POINTS ARE THEY JUST LOOKING FOR LIKE TIPS ON RIPENING STRATEGIES I'M THINKING YEAH KEEP MAYBE SOME METRICS OR SOME SOME DATA POINTS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT FOR SO I MEAN SOME OF THE OBVIOUS ONES IS TRY TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE APPROPRIATE TIMELINE FOR THAT STRAIN SO THAT'S BEEN YOU KNOW DOCENTING YOUR TRICHOME COLORS TOWARDS THE END PER CULTIVAR SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ALLOCATING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF PRODUCTION TIME FOR THAT TYPE OF STRAIN AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IF YOU DO HAVE THAT EXPECTATION SET UP THEN YOU KNOW KEEP AN EYE ON TERPENE PROFILES KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR LEAF COLORATIONS ALL THAT TYPES OF STUFF SO YOU KNOW RIPENING STRATEGIES I LIKE TO APPLY AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME FOR EACH STRAIN THINGS LIKE SOME INCREASED NIGHTTIME DAYTIME DIFFERENTIALS HELP PRODUCE ANTHOCYANINS GET AS MUCH COLOR OUT OF THAT PLANT AS IT CAN EXPRESS AND THEN ALSO YOU KNOW FOR RIPENING WE CAN DROP OUR OUR FEED EC SOMETIMES YOU KNOW A QUARTER DROP TO A HALF DROP AND SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF NUTRIENTS AS LONG AS WE'RE PUSHING A REALLY GOOD GENERATIVE SIGNAL TO THAT PLANT TO MAKE SURE IT RIPENS UP AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET FOR THAT PRODUCT YEAH I THINK YOU NAIL IT THE ONLY THING I'D ADD IS GO BUY YOURSELF A LOOP THAT'S GOT A LITTLE TINY RULER INSIDE OF IT THEY EXIST YOU CAN START LOOKING AT YOUR TRICHOME SIZES WHICH IS PRETTY COOL BECAUSE RUN TO RUN YOU CAN START TRYING TO OPTIMIZE HOW SPARKLY THAT BUD LOOKS AND SEE SOME OF THOSE RESULTS THE OTHER THING LIKE AS JASON WAS SAYING YOU CAN DROP YOUR EC AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS TO WATCH OUT FOR WHEN YOU DO THAT AND YOU KNOW I DO KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO JUST STRAIGHT FLUSH ANYMORE BECAUSE NOW THAT YOU'RE USING AROYA YOU CAN SEE THAT ROOT ZONE EC SO IF YOU'RE FLUSHING REALLY HARD AND YOU'RE JUST PUSHING EC OUT OF THE BOTTOM YOU ARE IT'S NOT STARVING THE PLANT BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THAT MORE LIKE VITAMINS THAN ACTUAL FOOD FOR IT BUT WE WANT THOSE BUDS TO BE AS HEALTHY AS POSSIBLE WHEN HARVEST COMES AROUND YOU KNOW I'VE SEEN IT A LOT OF TIMES WHERE PEOPLE PULL DOWN A BEAUTIFUL CROP AND THREE DAYS LATER THEY'VE GOT BOTRYTIS IN THE HANGING ROOM IN THE DRYER AND PART OF THAT COULD BE DRY ROOM CONDITIONS SOME OF IT IS THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WITH MOLD SPORES FLYING AROUND EVERYWHERE UNLESS YOU HAVE A HIPPO FILTER IN THAT ROOM 24 7 YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE SO IF YOU GO IN WITH A PLANT THAT HAS WEAKENED CELLS INSIDE THE BUD THAT'S A POINT WHERE MOLD CAN GERMINATE AND HIT YEAH IT'S KIND OF WHY I REALLY TRY TO AVOID THE TERM FLUSHING WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE INDUSTRY NOWADAYS JUST BECAUSE I THINK HISTORICALLY CONNOTATION A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ON WHAT FLUSHING MEANS AND THAT THAT'S KIND OF SPECIFICALLY AN IT'S AN ACTIVITY WHERE AS RIPENING IS KIND OF THE TERMINOLOGY I LIKE TO APPLY FOR THAT LAST SAY FIVE TO SEVEN DAYS MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER ON A ON A LONG RUNNING STRAIN BUT THAT'S A GOAL RIGHT WE'RE TRYING TO RIPEN AS A GOAL HOW YOU GET THERE CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON ON WHAT TYPE OF PLANT YOU'RE RUNNING WHAT WHAT ENVIRONMENT YOU'VE GOT WHAT SUBSTRATE YOU'VE GOT AND WHAT WHAT TERPENE PROFILE YOU'RE SHOOTING FOR THAT COLOR OF THOSE TRICHOMES ETC SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE REASON I DEFINITELY LIKE TO CALL IT RIPENING INSTEAD IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW FROM OUR OUR EXPERIENCE RUNNING STRAIGHT RO CAN DO EXACTLY WHAT SETH WAS SAYING AND SO SURE YOU CAN DECREASE YOUR NUTRIENTS BUT GOING FOR GOING FOR A FLUSH AS THE GOAL IS SOMETHING I I PERSONALLY LIKE TO TRY AND AVOID
GREAT AND LET ME READ MICHAEL'S COMMENTS HERE USB MICROSOFT MICROSCOPES ARE FANTASTIC FOR CHECKING YOUR FINISH SO YOU WANT TO ALSO ADD THAT TO THE CONVERSATION THEY'RE GREAT PLUS YOU GET ACTUAL PICTURES WITH THOSE PRETTY RAD YEAH AND SO GREAT WAY TO ATTRIBUTE THAT FROM CYCLE TO CYCLE AND BY STRAIN IS THROW THAT IN AS A NOTE IN THE ROY SYSTEM OR TASK SOMEBODY ON YOUR TEAM TO TO TAKE SOME TRICHOME PICTURES IN THERE TAKE SOME FINISHING PICTURES GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THOSE LEAF COLORS LOOK LIKE AND DIAL IN HOW MANY DAYS SPECIFICALLY YOU NEED FOR THAT PLANT AND HOW MANY DAYS YOU WANT TO BE DOING RIPENING ACTIVITIES
EXCELLENT ALL RIGHT WE'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION HERE FROM INSTAGRAM THIS ONE COMES FROM SHARK MOUSE FARMS THEY WANT TO KNOW IS THERE ANY LITERATURE OR DATA TO SUGGEST THAT INITIATING YOUR GENERATIVE CUES WILL SHORTEN TIME FROM TRANSITION TO 12-HOUR LIGHT SCHEDULE TO REPRODUCTIVE DEVELOPMENT ASSING EVERYTHING IS DIALED IN CORRECTLY I FLIPPED THREE SEPARATE GENOTYPES FROM THREE SEPARATE BREEDERS AND ALL ARE SHOWING DEFINED PISTOL DEVELOPMENT FOUR DAYS IN THOUGHTS ON THAT
SO USING GENITIVE STEERING TO PROMOTE FLOWERING WE'RE DEFINITELY PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF DROUGHT STRESS ON THE PLANT LIKE LET'S SAY YOU SPROUTED A SEED AND WENT 12 12 YOU'RE ALREADY PUTTING IT RIGHT AWAY INTO THOSE FLOWERING CONDITIONS AND KIND OF AVOIDING VEG BUT CANNABIS IS STILL A PHOTOPERIOD PLANT SO THAT GENERATIVE STRESS MIGHT SPEED IT UP A LITTLE BIT BUT OVER APPLYING IT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOUR YIELD AT A CERTAIN POINT THIS IS WHERE THE THE TARGET PLANT HEIGHT GOING IN PER STRAIN IS REALLY THE BEST METRIC TO CALCULATE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE STARTING FAR AND SOME OF THAT GENERATIVE STUFF BECAUSE WE WANT TO VEG OUT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE FOR SO FOR THE PLANT GROWTH TO BE AS EFFECTIVE OVERALL AS WE NEED WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE THE VEGETATIVE PLANT ORGANS THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE STEMS STALKS AND LEAVES WE WANT TO GET THOSE BUILT UP AS ABSOLUTE FAST AS POSSIBLE DURING THE VEG 18 SIX OR SOME PEOPLE RUN 24 ON BUT 18 6 IS PRETTY UNANIMOUS SO WE WANT TO GET THOSE THOSE VEGETATIVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE PLANT GROWING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE SO THAT'S WHY WE DO USUALLY RECOMMEND EDGE STEERING DURING 18 6 IS ESTABLISHING THE BASIS TO ENCOURAGE PLANT GROWTH OR FLOWER GROWTH SO GET THAT PLANT SET UP GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT NEEDS TO BUILD AS MANY BUDS AS POSSIBLE THEN WE'LL INDUCE THE THE BUD SITES YOU KNOW GET THOSE NODE SITES STACKED UP AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE DURING OUR GENERATIVE AND THEN AFTER THAT PLANT'S BEEN BEEN SIGNALED TO BE AS REPRODUCTIVE AS IT CAN THEN WE'LL WE'LL LET IT LIVE OUT THE REST OF ITS LIFE SOME BULKING SO GET THAT GET THOSE REPRODUCTIVE SITES THOSE BUDS THOSE FLOWERS ESTABLISHED AND THEN BULK THEM OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE CYCLE YEAH I MEAN I THINK A BIG THING WE LOOK AT HERE CROP STEERING IS OPTIMIZING PLANT HEALTH EVERY PART OF THE CYCLE WHEN WE STRESS THE PLANT TOO MUCH WE'RE BASICALLY DELAYING GROWTH WE'RE GOING TO IMPACT HOW QUICKLY IT'S METABOLIZING ALONG WITH WHAT JASON SAID IF YOU ARE LET'S SAY TOPPING IN VEG ONE THING YOU'LL NOTICE THE PLANT STALLS OUT ALL RIGHT THAT GIVES US MORE TIME IN VEG THAT ADDS MORE TO OUR TOTAL CYCLE LONGER TURNAROUND TIME SO WHAT'S OUR POTENTIAL SOLUTION NOT TOPPING FLIPPING THE PLANT A LITTLE EARLIER AND POTENTIALLY UPPING OUR DENSITY ALL RIGHT THAT ALLOWS THAT PLANT TO NOT TAKE UP AS MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE PER OR DURING ITS LIFE CYCLE IN OUR FACILITY SO ALL THOSE PLANTS GOT TO PAY THEIR RENT RIGHT NOTHING'S FREE INSIDE YOUR FARM SO ANYTIME WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE PLANT WE'RE LOSING MONEY AND TIME SO THE IDEA IS WE REALLY WANT TO OPTIMIZE EVERYTHING WE CAN FOR THE PLANT AND STEER IT NOT NECESSARILY FIGHT IT AND THAT'S THE SAME YOU KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT LIKE D LEAFS OR ANYTHING WE DO EVERY ACTION YOU PUT ON THAT PLANT COSTS TIME AND MONEY SO WE WANT TO IMMACULATE AGAIN MAXIMIZE GROWTH AT EVERY POINT MINIMIZE WORK WE PUT IN AND NOT FIGHT THE PLANT YEAH AND THAT'S THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT SETH BECAUSE WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW CROP STEERING WHERE WE'RE MODULATING PARAMETERS AROUND A BALANCE RIGHT AND SO IF WE HAD A BALANCE THEN THAT PLANT IS GOING TO EXPRESS ITS MORPHOLOGY BASED ON HAVING A EQUALIZED PRESSURE FROM EITHER SIDE OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GROW RIGHT AND SO REALLY YOU KNOW WHEN WE SAY GENERATIVE OR VEGETATIVE THERE ARE DEGREES THERE'S AN INTENSITY TO IT IT'S A VECTOR SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A STEERING DIRECTION AND A STEERING INTENSITY AND OBVIOUSLY IF WE TAKE THINGS TOO FAR WHETHER WITH THE ENVIRONMENT OR WITH IRRIGATION EITHER WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE FIGHTING THAT PLAN AGAIN WHICH IS GOING TO BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE SO IT IS TALKING ABOUT USING THE RIGHT STEERING DIRECTION FOR THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME AT THE RIGHT INTENSITY
GREAT JUST A REMINDER TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON WITH US TODAY FEEL FREE TO TYPE YOUR QUESTION IN THE CHAT FOR A CHANCE TO GET IT ANSWERED LIVE BUT I DO HAVE A TWO-PART QUESTION HERE THAT GAS HOUSE GARDENS SUBMITTED LET ME START WITH PART ONE AND I SMARIZED A LITTLE BIT OF IT HERE WHEN STACKING EC IN THE BLOCK CAN WE STILL ACHIEVE RUNOFF TO MAINTAIN PROPER NUTRIENT SOLUTION THEY GO ON TO DESCRIBE A NO RUNOFF SCENARIO WHERE THE PLANT IS ACTIVELY TAKING UP CERTAIN NUTRIENTS MORE QUICKLY WHILE OTHER NUTRIENTS ARE TAKEN ON PASSIVELY THE PASSIVELY UPTAKEN NUTRIENTS ARE BUILDING UP IN THE BLOCK MORE THAN THE ACTIVE ONES SO THIS PERSON IS WONDERING IF WHILE BUILDING EC SHOULD THEY COMPENSATE FOR THOSE ACTIVE NUTRIENTS TO MAINTAIN PROPER RATIOS DURING STRETCH AND RIPENING IF YOU CAN IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN EASY THING TO DO AND YEAH FORTUNATELY NUTRIENT PLANS OUT THERE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED OVER THE NBER OF YEARS AND CANNABIS PRODUCERS DO HAVE BETTER ACCESSIBILITY TO WELL-BALANCED NUTRIENTS THAT BEING SAID OBVIOUSLY IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY DOING A LEAF TISSUE SAMPLE ANALYSIS TO TRY AND GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT IMBALANCE LOOKS LIKE IT IS A GOOD APPROACH TO TRY AND KEEP THAT BALANCE RIGHT SO KEEP AN EYE ON THE RUNOFF PH AND THAT RUNOFF PH IS A IS AN EASY WAY ON SITE TO KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF THE THE RUNOFF BALANCE OF NUTRIENTS RIGHT SO IF THE PLANTS TAKING UP A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE NEGATIVELY CHARGED NUTRIENT IONS THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PH RISE AND AND VICE VERSA ON THAT SO THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO KIND OF KIND OF MONITOR HOW THAT'S GOING ON THAT BEING SAID IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY SPECIFICALLY WHAT NUTRIENTS YOU NEED TO ADD TO COMPENSATE THAT WOULD BE ONE WAY TO DO IT AND BECAUSE IF YOU ARE DOING NO RUNOFF AND YOU DO HAVE SOME BUILD UP LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THEN THEN THERE'S SOME MISSING PIECES IN IN THAT BUILDING BLOCK SO THAT THAT PLANT TRYING TO GROW AS BEST AS POSSIBLE YEAH I MEAN IN A PERFECT WORLD WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO USE RUNOFF AS OUR CRUTCH TO MAINTAIN ALL THIS BUT IN REALITY IN PRACTICALITY WHEN WE HIT THE ACTUAL GROW SPACE RUNOFF IS OUR FRIEND FOR MODULATING HOW WELL OUR EC STACKS SO UNLESS YOU'RE COMING INTO FLOWER TO REALLY LOW EC AND YOU'RE STRUGGLING TO STACK IT YOU SHOULD BE PUSHING A SMALL AMOUNT OF RUNOFF AT THE END OF YOUR P1'S AND THAT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP THAT YOU KNOW STACKING FROM GETTING DRAMATICALLY HIGHER DAY AFTER DAY WE JUST WANT TO KIND OF WE WANT TO KEEP IT IN A RANGE FOR EACH PHASE OF STEERING WE DON'T WANT TO STACK IT CRAZY HIGH WE DON'T WANT TO FLUSH IT OUT YOU KNOW AS WITH ANYTHING WHEN WE MAKE BIG CHANGES THE PLANT STRUGGLES TO RESPOND TO THAT SO IT'S JUST KNOCKING TIME OFF OF YOU KNOW OUR TIME WE ACTUALLY ARE SPENDING IN PERFECT GROWING CONDITIONS OR PRIME GROWING CONDITIONS AND HAVING THE PLANT METABOLIZE AND SO WHILE WE'RE ON THAT TOO I THINK YOU KNOW ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I GET A LOT OF TIMES IS PEOPLE SCARED OF YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE EASY GETTING PRETTY HIGH BY NIGHTTIME OR BEFORE THE THE NEXT IRRIGATION AND THE NEXT MORNING AND SO WHEN WE DO TALK ABOUT KIND OF EC STACKING USUALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE NOMINAL OR THE SAY THE DAILY RETURN OF THAT EC AFTER IRRIGATION AND THAT'S THE NBER YOU WANT TO BE LOOKING AT WHEN YOU'RE MODULATING THE RUNOFF THE EC RISE AFTER YOUR IRRIGATION IS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE INDICATOR INVERSELY RELATED TO YOUR DRYBACKS AND STUFF SO DON'T NECESSARILY GET TOO WORRIED IF YOU DO SEE YOUR ECS RISING UP VERY QUICKLY ON A ON A DAY BASIS BUT IF IT IS CLIMBING TOO RAPIDLY FOR YOU KNOW DAY OVER DAY THEN THEN YOU PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE JUST SLIGHTLY MORE RUNOFF YEAH I THINK YOU NAILED IT AND THEN YOU KNOW IF YOU START LOOKING AT RANGES OF PLANT TOXICITY VERSUS AVAILABILITY IN DIFFERENT NUTRIENTS THE TOLERANCE IS ACTUALLY QUITE WIDE FOR WHERE YOU CAN BE FAIRLY HIGH EC AND HAVE ACCESS TO THESE AND IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T HURT THE PLANT YOU KNOW IT'S MORE OF AN OSMOTIC PRESSURE SITUATION RATHER THAN A TOXICITY PARTICULARLY UNLESS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NITROGEN LATENT FLOWER USUALLY THE PLANT WILL PUT UP WITH A LOT MORE THAN WE GIVE IT CREDIT FOR IT'S JUST AFTER ALL THESE YEARS OF PAYING ATTENTION TO RUNOFF AND NOT SEEING WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE ROOT ZONE WE NEVER SAW THOSE YOU KNOW 22 DC SWINGS YOU KNOW AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING A FEW HOURS BEFORE YOU START WATERING WE JUST DIDN'T SEE THAT IN RIPENING BEFORE ALL WE SAW WAS THAT RUNOFF THAT CAME OUT WHICH IS ALREADY YOU KNOW DILUTED BY THE NUTRIENT SOLUTION YOU'RE PUTTING ON IT LIKE WE JUST WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE VISIBILITY I DIDN'T FOR YEARS AND IT BLEW MY MIND WHEN I PUT SOME SENSORS IN AND WENT WOW WE'RE NOT FEEDING THAT MUCH IT'S COOL STUFF YEAH DEFINITELY HELPS HAVING HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF VISIBILITY ON THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY TELL YEAH AND YOU KNOW DON'T FORGET TO LOOK AT YOUR PLANTS EITHER LIKE YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WOW THIS THING'S HITTING 18 BUT THEN YOU GO LOOK AT IT AND FINISHING IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL HEALTHY PLANT YOU KNOW THEY WILL REALLY SURPRISE YOU WHAT YOU CAN THROW AT THEM SOMETIMES
MICHAEL POSTED A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS WHILE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS HOW OFTEN WOULD YOU RECOMMEND RUNOFF TESTING AND DO YOU RECOMMEND LEACH TESTING AT ALL
EVERY WHAT'S WHAT ARE WE TALKING FOR A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RUNOFF AND LEECH
BECAUSE USUALLY LEACHATE IS GOING TO BE RUNOFF FROM FROM WHAT I'M USED TO DOING AS FAR AS I I LIKE TO RECORD IT EVERY DAY BUT I AM A MORE DATA IS BETTER IF I DIDN'T NEED THE DATA IT'S CHEAPER TO THROW IT OUT THAN IT IS TO TRY AND RECREATE IT IN THE NEXT CYCLE SO I I LIKE TO HAVE A CATCH CUP UNDER ONE OR A FEW PLANTS IN THERE AT LEAST PER STRAIN SEE IF YOU CAN GET RUNOFF VOLE AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET PH AND RUN OFF DC SO GET USED TO USING THE EC IN YOUR SUBSTRATE YOU MAY MAY RETIRE FROM TAKING EC MEASUREMENTS BUT BUT THERE'S REALLY NO SUBSTITUTION FOR RUNOFF VOLE AND RUNOFF PH ON A DAILY BASIS IF YOU CAN YEAH I THINK YOU NAILED IT PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT RUNOFF PH IS VERY IMPORTANT YOU KNOW ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE HAVING ANY WATER QUALITY ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT LIKE HAVING THAT RUNOFF TEST AND DATA TO LOOK BACK AT AND GO LIKE MAN IT'S JUST ONE MORE METRIC TO SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AND WHILE YOU AREN'T GOING TO BE STEERING YOUR WHOLE CROP BASED OFF RUNOFF IT'S STILL VERY VALUABLE DATA MICHAEL CLARIFIED HERE LEECH TESTING MEANING MORE FLUSHING THE MEDI OUT WITH STANDARD FOOD TO MEASURE THE INTERNAL EC AND PH OF THE SUBSTRATE AND SO HIS ORIGINAL QUESTION IS DO YOU REC RECORD DO YOU RECOMMEND LEACH TESTING AT ALL I WOULDN'T NOT WITH MODERN HYDRO SUBSTRATES YOU KNOW COCOA OR ROCKWOOL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED CAN COME JUST FROM A TYPICAL DAILY RUNOFF YEAH TO IN ORDER TO DO AN ACCURATE LEECH TEST TOO YOU BASICALLY BETTER TAKE A HOLE SAW OUT THERE DRILL A CORE OUT OF ONE OF YOUR BLOCKS TAKE IT IN AND FLUSH IT WITH DEIONIZED WATER AND SEE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THERE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE DO IN A SOIL LAB AND THAT'S YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THE COMPOSITION OF WHAT'S IN THERE OR STICK A SENSOR IN IT SEE WHAT YOUR EC IS LOOKING LIKE IN THERE
BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S THE OTHER THING UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR R D ON SOME OF THESE THINGS CERTAIN THINGS WILL BE DESTRUCTIVE THAT'S THE REALITY LIKE IF YOU WANT A FULL CLEAN SOIL ANALYSIS YOU'VE GOT TO SEND THAT TO A LAB
TURTLE FARMS YOU POSTED A COMMENT YOU WANT TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND SPEAK TO IT
SURE THAT GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT EC BUILD UP AND A FEW TIMES WHEN I'VE HAD MY BLOCKS BUILD UP TOO EARLY LIKE THROUGH THE STRETCH AND I'VE LET IT BUILD UP WAY TOO EARLY IT ALMOST ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE IT'S NITROGEN THAT I GET OVERWHELMED ON AND THOSE PARTICULAR PHENOLS WILL JUST CONTINUE OVER STRETCHING AND THEN THEY LOSE ALL THEIR BUD STRUCTURE I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN TWO OR THREE TIMES ABSOLUTELY SO NITROGEN ACTUALLY ACTS AS A PLANT GROWTH REGULATOR AND HIGH ENOUGH CONCENTRATIONS WHICH CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING EC IN THE BLOCK THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET TO MID FLOWER YOU'RE CUTTING A LOT OF NITROGEN OUT OF YOUR FEED SCHEDULE SO WE DON'T WANT TO PUSH THAT SUPER HARD AND THAT CAN EVEN LEAD TO YOU KNOW IF YOU RUN AN EARLY FLOWER OF EDGE SOLUTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH YOU'LL PROBABLY NOTICE HUGE INNER NODES LOOSE BUDS FOX TAILING EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY 70 DEGREES IN THERE BUT YEAH THAT'S LITERALLY BECAUSE THAT IS ACTING ALMOST LIKE OXEN OR ANY OTHER PLANT HORMONE AND DRIVING GROWTH AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS THAT'LL PUSH OTHER DEFICIENCIES IF YOU'RE RUNNING YOU KNOW A NITROGEN TOO HIGH YOU'LL SMACK YOUR HEAD RIGHT INTO CALCI DEFICIENCIES TWO WEEKS AND YOU'LL YOU'LL SEE ALL THESE OTHER PROBLEMS ARISING FROM THE FACT THAT THAT NITROGEN IS JUST PUSHING THE PLANT SO HARD SPECIFICALLY IN CELL ELONGATION AND NOT DIVISION SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE YOUR BUDS NOT GETTING BIGGER THE CELLS ARE STRETCHING BUT THEY'RE NOT DIVIDING AND TURNING INTO MORE FLOUR IT'S TOUGH TO RECOGNIZE AND UNTIL I HAD THE SENSORS IN THERE IT WAS TOUGH TO EVEN RECOGNIZE BECAUSE I HAD A COUPLE PHENOS THAT WOULD STAY LOOKING PERFECTLY HEALTHY NO CLAWING NOT TOO DARK NO TIP BURN NO NOTHING I COULDN'T TELL THEY WERE OVER ON ANYTHING UNTIL I STUCK THE SENSORS IN THERE AND IT I'M MAN I ALMOST THREW AWAY TWO PHENOS THE SENSOR SAVED FOR ME MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE ALL I HAD TO DO WAS SAVE SOME MONEY ON FERTILIZER YEAH BUT THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT'S CRAZY IS THERE'S SUCH A RANGE IN PLANT RESPONSES YOU KNOW TO DIFFERENT EC LEVELS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DIFFERENT NUTRIENTS I MEAN IF ANYONE'S EVER GROWN IN DEEP WATER CULTURE IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T ACTUALLY PUSH ANYTHING INTO THE PLANT WE WE GIVE IT ALL WE PUT OUT THE PLATE IT EATS WHAT IT WANTS THAT'S THAT'S THE REALITY SO WE JUST GOT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T PREFERENTIALLY EAT ONE THING TOO MUCH CAN'T FEED IT TOO MUCH NITROGEN AND THEN YEAH SAME THING YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT RUNNING INTO THOSE LIMITING FACTORS YOU'LL END UP IN THE SAME BAD BOAT IF YOU'RE LOW ON NITROGEN TOO HIGH ON CALCI EVERYTHING PLAYS TOGETHER FOR SURE I'VE BEEN CUTTING THE WITH THE ATHENA THEY RUN LIKE 40 60 OR WHATEVER COURT OF BLOOM AND NOW THROUGH WEEK THREE I I CUT IT BACK TO 2080 AND THEN SOMETIMES BY THE END I'LL EVEN CUT IT HARDER SO AND I'M MUCH BETTER RESULTS THAT WAY TOO AND LETTING ODDLY ENOUGH LETTING THE PH RUN A LITTLE HIGHER IN THE MEDI HAS HELPED PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING TOO IT'S LIKE IT DOESN'T WANT TO ABSORB AS MUCH OF THE NITROGEN SO IT HELPS IT YEAH AND IF WE ACTUALLY IF YOU I'M SURE YOU'VE LOOKED AT THAT PLANT NUTRIENT AVAILABILITY VERSUS PH THAT'S ONE GREAT WAY TO MODULATE IT IF YOU'RE LIKE HEY I'VE GOT THIS FEED SOLUTION I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHOICES I CAN UP THE PH AND RESTRICT THAT NITROGEN UPTAKE JUST A LITTLE BIT YEAH FOR SURE IT'S HELPED A TON
COOL AWESOME GLAD YOU REALIZED THAT ON YOUR OWN THAT'S AWESOME DUDE JUST THROUGH OBSERVATION YEAH AWESOME SO GAS HOUSE THEY HAD A SECOND QUESTION THE OTHER QUESTION THEY ASKED WAS DOING RIPENING I'M NOTICING UNEVEN RIPENING FROM TOPS TO BOTTOMS EVEN WITH THE DLI OF 65 CAN WE UTILIZE CROP STEERING TO HELP WITH THE PROCESS OF EVENLY RIPENING OUR CROP OR WOULD THAT BE A NUTRITIONAL ISSUE
THERE COULD BE A NBER OF THINGS INTO PLAY HERE THE FIRST ONE IN MY MIND WOULD JUST BE LIGHT PENETRATION YOU KNOW THE TOP SHEER PLANTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING THAT 65 DLI AND SO YOU KNOW IF WE LOOK AT LEAF AREA INDEX WOULD BE THE THE TRADITIONAL METRIC THAT THAT GIVES YOU A NBER AS FAR AS HEY THIS IS HOW MUCH LIGHT IS BEING BLOCKED FROM THROUGH THE CANOPY RIGHT INTO THOSE LOWER THOSE LOWER SEGMENTS SO YOU KNOW HOW HOW DO YOU AVOID THAT IT THERE'S A COUPLE YOU KNOW THINGS IN THE INDUSTRY SOME UNDER CANOPY LIGHTING SOME SIDE LIGHTING I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE MUCH EXPERIENCE OR ANY ANY VERIFIED RESEARCH ON HOW THAT AFFECTS THE PLANT GROWTH BUT BUT LIGHT INTENSITY WOULD PROBABLY BE THAT THE ONE THAT COMES TO MIND AS FAR AS I KNOW FOR RIPENING THE DIFFERENTIAL ON THE PLANT YEAH I MEAN I THINK YOU NAILED IT EACH BUD JUST LIKE SAY A TOMATO OR SOMETHING WE NEED SO MUCH INPUT IN TERMS OF LIGHT WATER AND CO2 TO BUILD THAT OBVIOUSLY ALONG WITH THE REST OF OUR NUTRIENTS SO THOSE LOWER BUDS ARE NOT GETTING AS MUCH LIGHT LIKE EFFECTIVELY WE COULD SAY ALL RIGHT THEY'RE GETTING HALF THE LIGHT THEORETICALLY THEY'RE GONNA TAKE ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH TIME TO ACTUALLY RIPEN UP THEY'RE JUST NOT GONNA GROW AS BIG THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE AS MATURE SO IN MY EXPERIENCE THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT IS PRUNE HARD AND PRUNE EARLY YOU KNOW GET RID OF THAT THAT UNDER FOLIAGE THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE OR THAT YOU'RE GONNA END UP THROWING AWAY IF YOU'RE PULLING OFF BUDS AT WEEK THREE OR FOUR DOING YOUR SECOND CLEANUP YOU'RE THROUGH I MEAN YOU'RE JUST THROWING AWAY MONEY THAT YOU PUT INTO GROWING THOSE WHEREAS IF YOU COULD HAVE PRUNED THOSE UP YOU KNOW AROUND FLIP LET'S SAY THEN YOU'RE NOT SPENDING TIME FLOWERING OUT AND BUILDING UP PLANT MATTER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO THROW AWAY THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE LEAVES THAT WE'RE GOING TO THROW AWAY AT DIFFERENT POINTS BUT NOT INVESTING THE TIME INTO DEVELOPING BUDS THAT WE DON'T WANT IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO GET AROUND THAT YEAH JUST TO JUSTIFY PRUNING HARD THAT DOES MEAN MAINTAINING A BALANCE SO THAT THE PLANT STILL HAS ENOUGH YOU KNOW THEY'RE JUST LIKE SOLAR PANELS RIGHT THESE PLANTS ARE ABSORBING LIGHT ENERGY BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF SURFACE AREA THAT IS EXPOSED TO ENERGY SO WE'VE GOT PHOTONS HITTING THAT PLANT SURFACE PROVIDING IT THE CATALYST FOR THE PHOTOSYNTHETIC PRODUCT OR PROCESS EXCUSE ME AND AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO STRIP PAST THE POINT OF REDUCING THE TRAJECTORY OF THAT PLANT GROWTH SO IT IS IT IS A GOOD BALANCE JUST TO JUSTIFY THE HARD VALUE YEAH YEAH SORRY I DON'T LIKE TO SCARE PEOPLE WHEN I SAY THAT BUT IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT WITHOUT HAVING A PICTURE IN FRONT OF ME TO SHOW YOU BUT IT IS SOMETHING YOU NEED TO DIAL FOR EACH STRAIN AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETIMES WHY TAKING PICTURES IN VEG AND ANY TIME YOU DO ANY DEFOLIATION AND SAY OKAY I'M GOING TO TAKE PICTURES OF THIS RELATE IT TO THAT RUN BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS I HAVE WHEN YOU GROW THE SAME STRAIN LIKE 30 OR 50 TIMES YOU GO HIT DID THAT WEIRD THING LAST SPRING YOU GUYS REMEMBER RIGHT LIKE IT'S DOING THAT AGAIN WELL NO I DON'T REMEMBER DID YOU DOCENT IT EXACTLY SO IF YOU CAN HAVE A PICTURE TO LOOK BACK AND GO OKAY HERE'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE'S WHAT WE DID HERE'S HOW THE PLANT'S RESPONDING BECAUSE YOUR PRUNING TECHNIQUES ARE GOING TO CHANGE FOR EVERY STRAIN YOU'RE GOING TO GROW THAT A FEW TIMES AND GET A FEEL FOR HOW IT GROWS WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO TIME YOUR SECOND D LEAF EVERYTHING SO IT'S SOMETHING YOU GOT TO BUILD IN AND REALLY OPTIMIZE YOU KNOW EACH CULTIVAR IN YOUR FACILITY OVER TIME BUT YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THERE WITHOUT THE DATA LOOK BACK AT AND INFLUENCE YOUR DECISIONS FOR YOUR NEXT ROUND
HUSKY WHO'S ON WITH US TODAY POSTED A COMMENT HUSKY YOU WANT TO UNMUTE YOURSELF AND ADD TO THE CONVERSATION
WHAT THEY POSTED WAS UNDER CANOPY LIGHTING THERE YOU ARE GO FOR IT
WE CAN STILL HAVE YOU MUTED
OH YEAH YEAH SORRY ABOUT THAT I JUST WANTED TO ASK MORE ON THE TRICOM RIPENESS YOU MENTIONED DIFFERENT STRAINS NEED TO BE TAKEN MAYBE AT DIFFERENT TIMES CAN YOU MAYBE TALK ABOUT IF CLEAR IS OBVIOUSLY TOO EARLY AND DO YOU GO FOR CLOUDY OR DO YOU GO FOR REALLY WHITE TRICOMS DID YOU GO OFF ANY AMBER JUST THAT SIMPLE REALLY YEAH AND YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE A PROGRESSION RIGHT SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH USUALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEAR TRICHOMES IS WHAT THAT PLANT IS AT SOME POINT YOU KNOW GETTING CLOSER TO THE HARVEST DATE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO YOU KNOW FRESH FROZEN OR SOME TYPES OF EXTRACTS DO PREFER TO GET A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN THAT CLEAR TO CLOUDY DURATION TYPICALLY FOR YOU KNOW FLOWER MARKET PREFERENCES ARE ARE SOMEWHERE IN THAT EARLY AMBER STAGES YEAH I MEAN YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE GUYS GROWN FOR BULK OIL PRODUCTION YOU'RE PULLING IT AT SIX WEEKS BECAUSE YOU CAN STILL GET THE OIL YIELD THAT YOU WANT AND YOU'RE GONNA YOU KNOW FORMULATE THAT INTO THE PRODUCT THAT YOU NEED AS FAR AS FLOUR GOES I THINK THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS AS YOU'RE RIPENING HITTING THAT POINT WHERE YOU'RE LIKE I MIGHT PULL IT TODAY LOOK AT IT TAKE A SAMPLE AND IF YOU'VE GOT THE MEAN SLOWLY TEST IT OVER TIME AND FIND OUT WHAT DAY REPRESENTS THE PRODUCT THAT YOU WANT TO PUT OUT ARE YOU TRYING TO PUT OUT YOU KNOW BECAUSE EVEN A DIFFERENT STRAIN DEPENDING ON HARVEST DAY IS GOING TO HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TERPENE EXPRESSION AS FAR AS LEVELS A DIFFERENT TERPENE AND THEN POTENCY SO YOU WANT TO DIAL THAT TO WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT OUT AND MAKE SURE YOU CAN REPEAT IT SO AS JASON WAS SAYING ON FLOWER A LOT OF TIMES IT IS MORE ON THE AMBER SIDE YOU KNOW GO IN AND DECIDE WHAT LEVEL OF AMBER DO WE WANT WHAT DAY ARE WE GOING TO PULL AND THEN YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST ANOTHER METRIC TO MAKE SURE YOUR CONSISTENT CONSISTENCY STAYS THERE AND AS YOU KNOW MICHAEL TALKED ABOUT DOCENT IT WITH YOUR USB MICROSCOPE PUT IT INTO AROYA AND SAY HERE IT IS DAY 60 FOR OUR OG KUSH IS YOU KNOW LOOKS LIKE THIS DAY 63 LOOKS LIKE THIS AND WE KNOW THAT HEY WE WANT TO BE AT DAY 62 BECAUSE LAST TIME WE WENT JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO LONG
GIVE YOURSELF REFERENCES GIVE YOURSELF A YOU KNOW BASICALLY A VERY COMPLETE DIGITAL GROW JOURNAL OF AS MANY INPUTS AS YOU CAN SO THAT'S REALLY THE REASON THAT YOU KNOW WE'VE WORKED TO COMBINED SENSOR DATA WITH MANUAL ENTRIES WITH NOTES WITH TASK MANAGERS BECAUSE MOST ALL OF THOSE ITEMS AFFECT THE PLANT GROWTH RIGHT AND SO SURE WE CAN BE LOOKING AT SENSOR DATA BUT IT REALLY TAKES AS MUCH METADATA ATTRIBUTING EACH CYCLE AS POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO REPLICATE PRODUCTIVITY TO ELIMINATE UNINTENDED VARIABLES CYCLE TO CYCLE AND TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW YOU CAN MAKE INCREMENTAL STEPS FOR CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT
YEAH YOU SMED IT UP RIGHT THERE BUDDY
THANKS GUYS THAT WAS FANTASTIC THANKS FOR ASKING A QUESTION HUSKY BE SURE TO STICK AROUND AFTER THE BROADCAST I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FROM INSTAGRAM BUT ALSO JUST TELLING OUR FRIENDS WHO ARE ON WITH US TODAY IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO GET YOUR QUESTION ANSWERED THIS IS THE LAST QUESTION FROM CUSH ENTHUSIASTS WHO ALSO ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COLLECTING RUNOFF FOR THE PURPOSES OF ANALYZING THE WATER WHEN HAND WATERING IN COCOA
I HAVE MY PHONE WITH A PICTURE ON ME USE A TRAY UNDERNEATH OF IT YEAH IF YOU GO TO THE HARDWARE STORE AND GET IT YOU KNOW YOUR BASIC PLANT TRAY FULL OF EMPTY STARTER CELLS SO YOU CAN SPACE IT UP OFF THE BOTTOM AND HAVE IT EASY TO SLIDE THAT TRAY OUT AND TIP IT OUT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE IT SITTING JUST IN THE TRAY YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SPACE FOR THE WATER TO FALL INTO OTHERWISE IT'LL JUST WICK BACK UP INTO THE POT AS THE PLANT USES IT SO THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING IN ANY WAY YOU CAN DEVISE FOR SPACING THAT UP ICE CUBE TRAYS I'VE SEEN PEOPLE CAN GET CREATIVE OUT THERE YOU KNOW AND I I GUESS ONE OF THE THINGS THERE AS WELL IS TRY AND DO A GOOD PRACTICE OF DRAINING IT EVERY DAY YOU KNOW SO WHEN IF YOU SKIP A DAY NOW YOU'RE GOING TO YOUR NBER'S GOING TO BE TWICE AS MUCH YOU KNOW IF YOU DIDN'T DOCENT IT THE DAY BEFORE OR YOU FORGOT TO DOCENT IT BUT IT DID GET DPED OUT THEN YOU KNOW ALL THOSE CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS AND SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOUR TEAM YOU KNOW MAYBE MARKS IT OFF SOMEWHERE SO IF IT IS A TASK GET THAT TASK DONE IN AROYA DO THE MANUAL READINGS SO THAT YOU HAVE THOSE NBERS AND YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOUR CATCH BUCKET GOT DPED OUT AND YOUR NEXT DAY'S READING IS GOING TO BE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT 24-HOUR PERIOD ABSOLUTELY AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT LIKE WHEN YOU START TO GET IN MORE PRECISION GO COLLECT IT AFTER YOUR P ONCE THAT'S ONCE A DAY GO SEE WHAT YOUR RUNOFF IS AFTER THAT IRRIGATION EVENT YOU CAN REALLY START DIALING YOUR YOUR SHOT SIZE AND HOW OFTEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AND START PAIRING THAT TO DIFFERENT SCREENS IF YOU LET YOUR RUNOFF WATER SIT THERE ALL DAY IN AN 80 DEGREE ENVIRONMENT WITH WIND BLOWING IT MIGHT TEST A LITTLE HOTTER IN BOTH PH AND EC JUST BECAUSE SOME WATER'S EVAPORATED BUT YOU KNOW AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 30 MILLILITERS OF WATER IN THERE 100 THAT'S NOT VERY MUCH YOU CAN BLOW ON IT AND THAT'LL GO AWAY
GREAT AMAZING SETH AND JASON WHAT A GREAT CONVERSATION THANK YOU SO MUCH WE WERE ON A LITTLE BIT OF A TWO-WEEK BREAK IT FELT REALLY GOOD TO BE BACK OFFICE HOURS TODAY MICHAEL TURTLE FARMS AND HUSKY IF YOU COULD STICK AROUND FOR JUST ONE MORE MINUTE I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO JOINED US FOR OFFICE HOURS LIVE THIS WEEK DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT AROYA HOW CAN BE USED TO IMPROVE YOUR CULTIVATION PRODUCTION PROCESS OR ANY OTHER TOPIC YOU'D LIKE COVERED IN A FUTURE OFFICE HOUR SESSION PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST IT IN THE CHAT SHOOT US AN EMAIL AT SUPPORT.ORG METERGROUP.COM OR SEND US A DM OVER INSTAGRAM WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU WE RECORD EVERY SESSION WE'LL EMAIL EVERYONE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY A LINK TO THE VIDEO FROM TODAY'S DISCUSSION AND THEN WE WILL ALSO POST IT ON THE ARROYA YOUTUBE CHANNEL LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE WHILE YOU'RE THERE AND IF YOU FIND THESE CONVERSATIONS HELPFUL PLEASE DO SHARE THEM WITH YOUR COMMUNITY AND SPREAD THE WORD THANK YOU SO MUCH AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT TIME SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK BYE GUYS UNTIL NEXT WEEK THANK YOU