Episode 2: Drybacks, substrates, and getting started with AROYA

CEO Scott Campbell and Client Success Director Jason Van Leuven talk extensively about drybacks, substrates, and how to get started with AROYA.

sorry hello and welcome to aroya office hours today I'm scott and this is jason here with me and we are ready to get started so and thanks also to the people who participated last week and who have shown up this week happy to talk to you about a bunch of of things and the earlier this week we were actually down in california visiting some growers and as we talked to them we told them that we were going to be doing this and they were interested in joining us and also it was a chance for us to learn the places or the ways in which the system was working well and not working well for them so a lot of cool stuff to to discuss so just to get started there are a few things on my on my agenda that that that I wanted to start off talking about one of the things that we saw when we went to the accounts was people almost everybody we visit either uses coco so coco coir or they use or they're growing in rockwool or they are growing in a peat moss and perlite mix and so just to start off with you know how different are your growing strategies going to be and how different is the data that you're going to see on aroya jason in your opinion growing in those different substrates it's a great question probably two of the topics that I like to think about when we're working with different medias would be cation exchange capacity so cec that's going to basically be how much the anions or cations are held into the substrate things like rockwool have a very very low cec so if there's adjustments made in your feed ec you'll see the substrate be very reactive to those changes it'll happen very quickly something like coco would be in the middle where it's slightly buffered changes are going to happen a little bit slower and then anything that's more on the organic side typically has the highest cec of those other things I like to consider would be the matric potential curves when we're looking at those different medias so rockwool itself has a fairly linear matric potential curve and we can go to extremely low water contents between or before there's significant stressors put on that roots so for anyone that's not familiar with matric potential it's the vacuum that has to be applied to a substrate in order to pull water out of it it's measured in kpa typically a negative number the more negative more negative it is the more vacuum that's being applied to that substrate so when we look at that matric potential things like coco are going to hang on a little bit more so it's slightly more more curved as we do get into the lower water contents that plant has to significantly increase the amount of vacuum being applied to the substrate in order to get water out of it and then again on the far end of the spectrum's organic substrates yeah now one of the things that I see so if I if I pull up my data from my little tent here so let's see if I can do that yeah there we go in my garage and let's go on

sorry wrong one still learning so if I pull up that data here and look at it you know I'm using a stonewool substrate and it is reacting pretty quickly to to when I feed it with water and then it's drying back more quickly so you know I'm doing these dry backs and this might be I don't know what it what a big drive back here would look like but I'm at 48 actually pro tip here you can actually measure your dryback so you start with when you stop watering here and then go all the way to the end of the dryback so here I was getting a 20 you know 21 drive back and then you can log it in the the platform there is that a typical dryback size that you might see for a stonewall substrate yeah absolutely so a couple things to take into consideration would be one the size of the plants the age of that plant obviously that's going to change how much of that root zone is enveloped in in ruts and active water being taken away from that substrate okay and then another would be to kind of think about what's what's our steering what's our desired steering pattern going on so in something like rockwool slabs where you've got a fairly large amount of water reservoir something like a 20 would be right on the edge between vegetative and generative steering yep yep and what I've seen in our quick start guide that you would expect to see from coir from coco coir less dry back in percentage terms but still you know even with a lower dryback you would expect to see even you know you would still expect to see those ec spikes right yes absolutely so you know corriere we we talked about the matric potential curve being a little bit more aggressive so we'll get into you know hundreds or maybe thousands of negative kpa when we're in that 20 25 range and that's definitely going to begin inducing some type of you know a small amount of irrigation stress on the plant so typically in in something like coco we'll actually keep up above some of those numbers and reduce our drybacks when steering just a slight bit of rockwool yeah and what about peat perlite what would you expect to see in terms of dryback size and its effect on osmotic potential which is an osmotic I like to explain the matric piece though matric is like the physical suction the osmotic potential has to do with the saltiness essentially like the concentration of nutrients and keeping nutrients you know it's stressing the plant with salts essentially instead of stressing it with with that suction like you might have in soil how does the the the peat moss perlite mix perform relative to those other substrates when we irrigate it yeah great question and again we're going to start off with some caveats there organic substrates like that you know maybe a pea curl a peat moss perlite kind of mix or vermiculite would be a lot it's gonna it's gonna have less water holding capacity overall so when we think of rockwool you know if we've got five gallons of rockwool we could have a fairly significant amount of water in there you know maybe four and a half gallons right and when we're looking at something like those organics typically your particles are going to be a little bit smaller and your total irrigation holding capacity in that substrate is going to be less so a lot of times we'll see people in a larger media when they're using that type of or larger volume of media when they're using organics you know maybe a peat moss or perlite mix and that's definitely going to also impact what you're seeing with your drybacks right yeah so that's another question that I've had for a long time as we look at at you know if we look here at at these curves here and by the way we talked about last week a basic problem I have with sensor placement and if if we if we break these out there's a couple sensors here that are giving us bad data which I intend to fix but you know when we look at the dryback that we're achieving and what's happening with the substrate one thing that we see is you know we've seen customers with volumes that are too small and then volumes that are too large to do drybacks and generative steering successfully so what are some ranges of volumes that you think work well for the different types of substrates for for crop steering and and where's that danger zone like where where you might be too small you know not have a a big enough volume to support the the root mass or where it's too big and so with the plant using all the water that it can from the substrate you're just not going to get a dry back over a you know over a 22-hour period exactly and so let's talk maybe on the small side some growers if they've got tiered systems and then maybe they're running a little bit smaller or shorter plants every once while they get away with a six by six by six hugo block yep if they do end up growing significantly larger plants in that six by six we'll see that water content drop quite a bit lower than preferable when steering generatively simply because the amount of volume in that substrate of water is not enough to run 22-hour dry back windows and what would you call a you know like and we've seen those blocks a lot and it used to be a little bit more popular than it is these days to grow in that six by six by six hugo block what what's maybe a plant height that would get that would overwhelm the blocks capacity to support a good a good plant

like feet three feet three and a half feet typically if you're getting into that four or five plus size plant it's gonna be having a significant amount of photosynthetic action going on definitely pulling more water than that block can hold and and stay in this saturation or the water content ranges that we want to see okay sure yeah yeah and what about too big like what are what are some setups you've seen when people have too much volume to deal with yeah so for for rockwool we'll stick with that real quick obviously slabs unislabs are some of our favorites running typically three plants on the slab if you're going really big plants maybe two plants on this lab typically any more than that is is going to be unnecessary and probably just not the best use of your substrate as a resource an input cost yeah for something like coco a lot of times we'll see you know one one and a half two gallons as the ideal range for hydroponic steering that is obviously people if they're still hand watering or they don't have great control on their irrigation systems they can up that a little bit more to to help the capacity of how often they irrigate yeah something like a five gallon of coco is usually going to be more than ideal for crop steering in an indoor environment well and I that's where I see with those larger volumes and people doing hand watering they're giving away some precision and yield just for the sake of trying to deal with the fact that they have to walk around and hand water their plants you know and that might be a good trade-off and so a bigger volume would be more forgiving you know if that doesn't get done at the right time or whatever there's still water for the plant to take up but what you're losing is the performance of the plant in my opinion is that what do you think about that yes yes absolutely because you know when we are using osmotic pressure and watching drybacks to crop steer if there's not enough dynamics in there we're not necessarily exercising the plant and you'll see a little bit of root stagnation if that water content is too high for too long another thing to kind of keep in mind working on those larger substrates is you're going to have an increased gradient in the water content itself right so typically when we think about how that water permeates in the substrate if we're in a five gallon coco for example we can think of cones a little bit of overlapping cones with the or funnels and that the the point of that funnel would be where your drippers are at right sure so you've got some amount of overlap where that that saturation that kepler effect is is feeling moisture from both drippers and so in something like a five gallon the gradient is going to be quite a bit larger over something that that's going to stay consistent like you know maybe rockwool has got extremely good capillary effect and compounding in that using some of the sensor technology so terrorist 12 we use is rated at a one liter volume of influence and that volume of emphasis is basically saying hey this is the sample of substrate that it's able to measure through so in a really large media that sensor is not going to necessarily give you a great scope of the gradient in that substrate and it's going to be a little bit more difficult to attribute the entire pot size with that one liter sample size I see I see okay and that's so so that's and we do have a question from john on this on the chat about sensor density and getting a representative sample so we do want to get to that in just in just a minute but I see brandon on a quick shout out to brandon I visited him in ramon earlier this week they have awesome facility down at at high season and they're in a two I think you know they're in a larger volume substrate and what we talked about doing was maybe trying an approach where where they water heavily on one day so if in the generative phase they water heavily on one day get that water content up in in for the substrate but then if the the client has a larger volume then you might let it dry back over two days but on that second day hit it with a little with with some water to make sure that the plant still thinks it's getting watered but then try and take a dry back over a two day period is that is that crazy or do you think that has some some because by doing that over two days you can get that higher ec to get the plant the stress to to turn it more generative what are your thoughts jason my thoughts are yeah I like to irrigate every day if possible and when we do see the need to run the dryback over two or three days that's usually an easy indicator that maybe the substrate's a little bit too large for what those roots can can envelop well and so what would you say you know because like talking with brandon for example they were you know that's what they're growing in today you know it's a so what should they do what should I do today should they try and get a little bit more dry back over a couple of days if if they are in a larger volume not to not water on that day one water like normal day two just not not water as much and trying you would always want to water I've heard okay you always want to give the plants something but then just keep that dry back going over over a couple days yeah that's probably a good mitigated approach definitely you know by irrigating on a daily basis you're stimulating plant growth yeah it's got a response every time that you irrigate I mean I've seen massive outdoor plants in these huge pots and I'm you know even if the plants are huge they're just not going to get a dry back over a you know say a 10 gallon substrate you will not get a dry back over a day in a in a pot that size so just something that that we that we discussed jason shall they pose john's question and and by the way for all of our attendees out there yeah if you anyone out there who's on a call today please feel free to write your questions any questions you have in our chat so john wants to know what's your general view on sensor density in the grow room how do you know when there's enough and can you have too many

well I think you can have too many if you if you are spending too much money on sensors and look we're a sensor company so for sure for sure we love selling people sensors but typically the problem there is cost like how much are you going to to pay to have those sensors and the other thing the two things regarding getting a representative sample is first and foremost use the the sensor installation tool the the installation guide that we have and it actually shows you where on each time you put it into the block where you should put that sensor that's the first thing is getting consistency in how you place the sensor in the growth medium and then the second is trying to get a representative sample on which plants you actually put the sensor in the other thing to be aware of if you are using a slab is to put that sensor in the the the right location in this lab which is if you have three plants the right location for the sensor is on the downhill side of the slab in between that bottom plant and that middle plant is that right jason that's what we find successful okay so that's the very first thing is sensor placement and philip texted me and told me that I was totally wrong about about brandon now I remember it was actually different customers using coco yeah but so I apologize brandon but jason has some thoughts to share on on sensor density because he's really looked at this question a lot yeah and I think we recently posted a youtube video talking about sensor density with some good graphics explaining variation and how that can affect the number of sensors you need for a representative sample some of those variation factors that we like to think about is how consistent the environment is across all of those plants do you have any issues irrigating so are you clogged drippers that type of stuff and and then the other variation factors could be things like light uniformity cloning consistency defoliation consistency other types of processing consistencies and then localized pressures so when we think about any type of biological population it follows a normalized curve if there's enough samples or enough participants in that population so when we think about a example installation of arroyo in a say a 1200 or a thousand square foot room we like to have at a minimum one sensor per hundred square foot of canopy and that's going to just help mitigate any of those variation factors that we talked about and get you a normalized curve that we can talk about hey this is our average or our expected plant weight plant quality and here's the type of standard deviation that we see in that population anytime that other factors get involved like having a number of strains that might behave differently it is great to increase that sensor density so that you can represent each of those genetic populations yeah and that that's that gets back to something we were talking about last week which is that in order to get good use out of the data in the platform to do things like crop steering many sites need to have gotten rid of the the variability and the inconsistency in environment for example or in irrigation you know dripper to dripper variants as if if there's huge changes in one corner of the room versus the other corner or one plant versus you know the two drippers that are in one plant versus two drippers and another one this is something that's going to make it very hard to get a representative sample no matter how many sensors you have so so that's a theme that we come back to is you know get getting variability out of your as much variability as possible out of the facility itself and then using the data getting a representative sample and and doing things like crop steering yeah we want to steer those plants as best as possible for the most plants possible and if our sensors on a plant that's growing significantly better or significantly worse than the the desired result then you may not be steering in the right direction I've heard from a good number of clients that maybe when they only had one sensor in a room of a different brand that the plant with the sensor grew fantastic up to their expectations and there was issues across the rest of the room okay yeah it's getting a little bit of negative bias there from the like the watch pot never boils type thing I guess so let's see so we actually have another question submitted before or before the session also about sensors this is kind of related this person wrote I set up the sensors and I'm trying to interpret my data how do I make my data actionable and how do I get the most out of what I measure

well that's something that we're constantly working on is is how to to make the the data more useful the very first thing in making your data useful is to start at the quick start guide and look at the general recommendations that we have in there in terms of like am I watering the appropriate number of times for the phase of growth that I'm in with the plant am I

am I taking readings that could help me to to have a better data set things like the internodal distance the stem diameter and the plant height I mean some of those things you only need at certain phases of growth and other times it doesn't really matter so you can drop those things into tasks and have the your team of growtex actually capturing that data and putting it in the system and then you know in the quick start guide it also talks about recommended dry back percentages that you might want to hit in generative and vegetative phases and so it's simple just to look at your data to measure your drybacks in whatever phase you're intending you know you have a statement of intent I'm in the vegetative phase so I want to steer these plants vegetative correlate that with the quick start guide and say am I actually doing what I intend to do in this phase of growth and if I'm not how could I change that you know if if the if the dry back is too large and the time in between the end of the watering and the first watering on the next day is too long to support vegetative growth then I need to add more feedings in and take that longer through the day and maybe increase increase that frequency to the point that I only get a 10 drive back in in veg so that's one way to start looking at the and and taking action based on the data is compare what you're seeing in your graphs with what's in the quick start guide to make sure that what you're intending to do is what is actually happening with the plan what are your thoughts on on other things people should be doing jason yeah you're exactly right on those those topics attributing your data is a great step to understanding what's going on in there and then I also like to use harvest groups basically building out a recipe so that the graph has other characters that indicate what's going on so something like a light schedule is a great way to see if your lights are turning on and off when you expect them to if it follows the shaded region in the background and you know that it's running as expected so yeah there's a lighting schedule right areas when I intend to have my lights on this is actually my my light intensity let me actually get to dli here which I want more than I want my light intensity yeah so here's my dli with a quantum sensor and so you can see that the photons getting added during the the time when the lights are on and other things in the harvest group that I find very helpful to give the data more meaning talking about timelines so if we break our recipe into say running in dry down generative vegetative and harvest or ripening and then harvest it we can understand our patterns meeting the objectives of that phase and then the last thing that's really nice about recipes is looking at your target and alert ranges so when we characterize that green box it's pretty easy to communicate with people on site staff members that the data say humidity is is accurate it's within the ranges that we want temperatures in the ranges that we want water contents you know high and low aren't drying back further than we'd like and then obviously those alerts can start to to give you information if you get too far out of bounds yeah and it kind of you know that that word actionable that that that kesha just mentioned is is I think the critical piece like how how do we make it useful for our customers and to me that's that has to do with those things that you mentioned actually making a statement of intent so the statement of intent is the recipe in my opinion it's like what do you intend to do with this product well I intend for it to have seven phases of growth and in each phase of growth this is where I want to keep the different parameters that I'm measuring and these are the tasks that I want to have done and if you split those up into into kind of mental you know mental groups there's the the atmospheric stuff so vpd temperature light there's the substrate stuff which is mainly around crop steering and what how the roots are doing there's plant touching tasks things like de-leafing I mean the plants can be super happy can be doing great but if you don't de-leaf properly you're going to have smaller bud lower down on the stem you know it's not as much grade a bud because the size is not as big it also hurts your yield so though the de-leafing is essentially taking away those light catching pads those you know the photon surfaces to to put those photons more effectively on places that are going to increase your yield and then the fourth one is ipm and they all have to do with each other they're all interrelated but I like what you said about the recipe because that's the way to take that statement of intent apply it to that harvest group that you're growing and then keep track of it to make sure that all those things the atmosphere the substrate the ipm and and the plant touching tasks are all happening when they should and all happening in the right way and if it gets off track that's the actionable piece how to get it back on track exactly great example of an actionable insight would be saying when we go into that you know a ripening phase towards the end that we're adjusting our environment so they can build a task that always happens on the first day of ripening to change the irrigate or the the climate controls right right and if we've got our target parameters set well an alert parameter set well if someone doesn't get that tax done it's likely that an alert will go out the day after that indicating that the changes in the environment weren't made as as as prescribed by that recipe yep yep and that means thousands of dollars you know if you're driving your humidity is too high and ripening you run the chance of having mold in the product you know actually getting a a a mold issue that then destroys a lot of value when you try and take that to market maybe you have to blow it out to extract or whatever the so that's the case where the alerts can make sure that you're doing the right thing to keep everything that you've done up to that point in cultivation you know very very valuable plants at that point lots of labor and resources invested in them getting them to the very end they're ready to to sell and you've accomplished your your goal as a grower okay what else you've got yeah I've got another one sent to us before our session today and to everyone out there if you have any questions we want to get them answered so be sure to add them to the chat someone wrote to us I'm in charge of several new grow rooms with a few strains in each our last few harvests didn't go as well as we'd hoped even though the rooms and plants look great what types of variables am I missing are there any sensors that might help me deduce what the problem is for next time

yeah I mean there's there's lots and lots of different things to look at the the one interesting part of this question to me was that they're saying that they have multiple strains in it in a single room so let's start with that one jason is that raising red flags for you yes you know it can be a challenge when we're running multiple cultivars different types of strains in a room simply because the genetic differences have growth behavior that prefers different irrigation schedules at different times and probably even different environments and I think one of the most valuable things that can be done because obviously there's typically sales pressure there's market pressure to have a good a good variety of strains on the shelf and so a lot of times you know it's not necessarily a reality to say a monocrop is is possible at our facility if you've got say you know five rooms at a facility that would mean you only get five types of strains you know at any given time obviously you can overlap those but what I was getting to is if you can document strain per zone then you can get to an idea of how that plant behaved for that grow cycle so we've got that that statement of intent and maybe there's a cultivar in the room that needs a little bit different parameters for that recipe so by documenting all that to the harvest group record you can get an idea of what types of plants grow well together and start to plant your rooms out with with similar genetic behavior and I think it might depend if you have a sophisticated enough facility that you could run a different irrigation a strategy per per zone you know that that might get might make it easier to have multiple strains in a single room some people don't have that capability though so so I think that compatibility within strains picking strains that that like to be treated in a similar way is critical as a first step and then the the second step is to me is going back through that data like jason said writing all the data to the harvest group record and then going back through that and looking at you know how much on each day of a particular period phase of growth what did you intend to achieve and did you actually achieve it and what how can how can clients you know analyze the data and get an answer to that question jason do you think by using the the cultivation data yeah so obviously with any choices the the more resources the more information you have to to get to the right choice is what you want so after you've grown a number of cycles say in a mixed cultivar room take a look at the results of that did your blue dream grow really well one round did your wedding cake grow really well one round did you know three out of the stream three or four out of five strains in the room grow well and then look at the the parameters on that and start to say all right we know that this type of plant prefers a an eight-week cycle versus a seven-week cycle or it prefers a little bit higher temperature in the room simply because of the how the evolution of that strains come along sure sure yeah I I would look for those differences and one thing that also comes up and this is this would probably be a little bit more obvious is the ipm side of things and for example on the west coast right now there's a lot of concern about hoplite and viroid and that may be some lack of vigor in plants is because of expression of that of the virus of a potential exposure to plant viruses do you think that might explain some of the lack of vigor would that be a more extreme case where you'd see some plants that are doing really well and some plants that that are expressing the virus being super short yeah that's that's a rough one these days with poplatean it affects different strains and different plants to a significant degree some some growths you can't even tell necessarily by the plant that it is infected obviously lab samples are going to be one of the key tools to avoid that at your facility make sure that you're getting that stuff checked and then obviously if you do have duds as a lot of people call it then it could be an absolute indicator that that plant has some type of infection I mean the the places that I've seen it before are just are there's there's a big discrepancy it's not all I mean I get I've never seen a facility where all the plants are affected by it's like a discrepancy between some plants expressing and some not but but maybe other people have seen other stuff out there happy to have comments or thoughts on that from from anybody who's on

i've got another question this is a little bit more general how quick does it take to get aroya set up and running yeah that's a great question and what we've found is that in a you know in a large well in in a small to medium-sized facility you should be up and running within you know hours you should because basically what it involves is is we already set up your rooms in your zones for you so as the client what you do is you unpack the the sensors out of the box you decide where you want to install them you use a mobile app to scan the qr code on the sensor tell us where you're installing it what room and what zone and then plug it into the plant and you know you do have to set up your there's a gateway and there's repeaters but those are power over ethernet there's the climate stations as well they're powerful ethernet so you know you might be able to to install a couple of sensors in a zone in five minutes so really you should be able to do a pretty large facility in less than a day and already be collecting data is that right jason that's my experience we've spent a lot of energy during our our research times trying to understand great ways that we can help people get this stuff set up sensor systems traditionally aren't necessarily easy a lot of times there's complexities as far as maybe programming or understanding serial numbers and that's one of the things with that qr code that's nice and fast just give it a cn tell us where it's at and that data is going to start piping to the record in the interface yeah yeah and that's that's what I experienced in when I set my my tent up at home I had three sensors I had a climate station I had a no repeaters but I had a gateway and everything worked the way that that I thought it should I plugged in the the gateway and it powered up and started blinking I pushed the buttons on the the sensors to wake them up and then assign them to zones using my phone and the whole thing to set up in my little tent took maybe 15 minutes so it was a really efficient a simple process and you know the we do want to make sure that that clients are not just setting up the sensors but then also setting up their plants in the system we talked about that before which is you know coming in here on the on the interface and once you get your plants or once you get your sensor set up sure you can just go and look at the the place where they're installed which is this this little 4x4 tent and you'll see a similar data stream but we what we also want is for users to come in here to production set up your recipes which is a basic description of how you want to grow and I made a basic one right here which is your as we talked about this is your statement of intent once you have a recipe we'd like you to come in here and create your harvest group and decide where those activities are going to happen the different phases name it however you want and then start adding the cultivar or cultivars to it that are that you're going to be growing and by doing this you create harvest groups and that's what jason was talking about before and kesha's question about actionable insights is that once you get those set up you can actually come down here and learn and learn how each of the cultivars that you're growing is actually doing you know this is just an over view of the cultivar if I go in here and click on this strain run or this cultivar within a strain run I can see a summary of all the data every thing that I've done to those plants as we talked about these data traces are pretty rough but everything that's happened to these plants within the context of them as a as a harvest group instead of just being unlabeled data from a room somewhere and looking historically everything that's happened in that room

and then that also adds up to facility performance as well which we which we talked about too so so getting set up is is a really quick process and like jason said we worked hard on making it simple we want to make this immediately valuable for people we used to have you know data loggers and cables strung all over the place and a lot of people don't appreciate until they actually install that everything being on a wireless sensor on a wireless bluetooth mesh network with a solar panel and a battery plugged into the sensor just makes it so easy you can install them get them set up quickly once it's time to flip the room you pull all the sensors out you some people make little racks for the side of the room where you hang them up you know they they have these little places for array to live when they're flipping a room and then they put the new plants in and they and they put the sensors back in it's all very simple yep that's maintenance on these things is pretty low no batteries to replace the wireless nose has a solar panel that's designed to keep them well charged up even in very low light conditions they'll go 100 plus days with no light at all so typically at the beginning of the cycle those things get fully charged up and if you've got a really thick canopy they'll always make it through the grow cycle and another thing when you're flipping the room it's it's not a bad practice to clean the prongs of the sensors yep depending on what types of chemicals you're using on there sometimes you'll see a little bit of residual buildup on those prongs it's a good approach just to have you know a clean sterile room anyways and since that thing's right in the substrate it's a great approach we recommend some isopropanol with a wipe down yep yep great from an ipm standpoint make sure everything is clean as possible so we do have a sorry keisha yeah we have a question from mandy can you explain the kiosk feature and how do I find it in my arroyo app and how do I use it okay we'll do the best that we possibly can here mandy because we don't have a a an ipad plugged into our system today but maybe I don't know I think I see philip on the call maybe he can send me some screenshots of the of the kiosk app because this is a new feature what mandy is referring to is a

is a new feature in the in arroyo that allows you to have a special view of all your data and stuff that you need to get done on an ipad or an android tablet so specifically for the tablet actually jason has it here how can we link up with your computer jason I could share it on the chat yeah go for it and that should give us a chance

all right this is kind of a visual is it sharing yet well I think so that's you won't

so y'all are looking at just a great example of the kiosk this is the the main dashboard the intent of it to be used on a tablet a lot of times either belonging to a building manager room manager or just mounted outside of the room this is a heads up display giving us the most recent readings of air temp relative humidity pressure deficit light substrate temperature electrical connectivity and water content a couple cool things going on here is we can see the ranges that are set for each of these types and that's just a little dark shaded area on the gauge and then we can see where at in that range we are indicated by that circle icon if we check out the vpd up in the top right we can see it's all filled in bright red this is indicating that the room is outside of the intended range in this case we can see the dot is just above where we'd like our vpd to be at so 1.9 is is definitely higher than we'd prefer in the room at that time it gives you gives you a quick quick idea of what's going on in there a lot of people can replace their hygrometers that they're so accustomed to looking at while they're in the room

on the left side we've got some information about the harvest group we've got the cultivars in the room and we can look at specific cultivars so if I wanted to check out the data referencing only lava cake we can see it's in zones three and four here and we'll notice that the ec water content and substrate temperature have slightly changed simply because we're omitting certain sensors in the room we're only looking at the sensors in the lava cake so by describing those harvest groups what plants are where in the room it makes it a little bit easier to see if they're behaving different even on the day to day a couple other options in here is going to be looking at the graph data itself if we click on one of these icons it'll bring up the traditional mobile time series view portal and that is hot in that room 81 yeah a little toasty yeah it's not too bad I like I like 81 depending on the plant age and what type of light sources you have okay if you say so let's click on that vpd and this is kind of cool because we can see here's our max and min target ranges and then obviously on the left side is the condition that we're at right now so obviously they're about 8 am our vpd started going up higher than we wanted and then at 8pm it was lower than we wanted so we're having a hard time with some of the hvac stuff in this room keeping that vpd where we want a couple other features in here so if we check out the little clipboard looking icon with the check mark this is indicating what tasks are in the room and if we if we log in with our pin code that'll actually allow me to see my tasks start tasks grab a task that's not been assigned for a room can time those take a break on them and then complete them when I'm done yeah and that's really excited about that the login feature the very first time you log in you will have to log in with your password but thereafter we've created a pin system so the particular team member they would all use their own individual pin to get access to the tasks note that the tasks here can be assigned either to a room well you can have wildcard tasks which are assigned to nobody and to no room okay and and you can still go in then and grab them in the system if the tasks are automatically scheduled in the recipe the room that contains those plants will be the room that shows the task on the kiosk and so you can go and grab it there it's not necessarily assigned to a person if the task is assigned to a person the person who logs in will see their task on this list and they can do it so there's multiple ways to get tasks to people this is this one is automatically filtering by the room where those tasks are done in by the individual that they're assigned to and again you don't have to assign it to a person but as jason mentioned it's really exciting to be able to have tasks here and to complete them here because when you click on them you will start the task in the system you can pause it like jason said and you will finish it in the system as well we don't have any analytics on particular tasks yet that takes advantage of this time but our intent is to use that labor tracking tool to be able to standardize and make a repeated task in the system more efficient so saying you know this task should be should only take this long to complete for example and then also be able to write that labor tracking data back to the particular cultivar on which the plant touching tasks were performed which gives you a much better idea of how much money you're making on each strain that you're growing so you can bring that business intelligence from cultivation activities actually into you know operations and finance and say hey this is these are the strains that we're doing really well on these are the ones that that really cost a lot to grow even if they're desirable they're so finicky that they're just taking all their time yeah we've got some nice features with the tasking here as well so if you know you're having an issue getting your task done you can do a comment on there and tag maybe someone to help you out and then we've got notifications based on tasking behavior as well so if you go into your account settings and make sure that you've got the appropriate notifications you can get notifications when you're assigned a task you can get a task reminder notification so maybe you have to get something done that day it can shoot you a notification at a program time managers can get task completed notifications so if they're sending tasks out they can keep an eye on what's getting done when without even being into the system and then that comment notification as well so I think last week as we were talking I was going to get you some help from bob on d-leafing if you just type in bob it'll pop up with the members that fit that that that name and give give them a quick quick message yep great I hope we excellent it answered your question yeah that's great thank you scott and jason I actually have one more question this actually came from our instagram community to anyone out there if you didn't get any questions answered today feel free to submit them at any time on instagram or email us this person is asking I am a small scale tent grower that is looking to scale and grow a business in 2022 how soon would I be eligible to start using the commercial platform and what are the prerequisites for getting started yeah as of today it we do make a distinction on arroyo and the way that we started it was we said that we need to know that you're a licensed grower in your state in order to to use the system and that's still where we are today the only the only caveat I would give is that that we are have talked about internally how to make the platform more accessible for everybody who wants to use the the the production platform to help themselves be a better grower and producer of the of the cannabis plant and so you know without it it's impossible for me to to to to give all the details at this point the only thing I can say is stay tuned what we do have for people right now is it's you know our quick start guide is generally available online so people can see our basic recommendations on growing and it's become really popular even with people who don't have the platform just to get that guide and and learn more about about the the fundamentals of growing the science is also really important to us so that's something we see a lot in the industry is there's a lot of pseudoscience and kind of you know snake oil going around we started out in the environmental biophysics space we have studied for 40 years the the soil plant atmosphere continuum and so you know these are things that are important to us and we don't put things in our recommendations that are that are just guesses that are just you know you know it would be nice if this were true or this is a fun new idea what we put in our materials is the science the third thing is that even today you can get solace's which is the heart of the arroyo system is a correct sensing of the substrate and that same teres 12 sensor that's used on on aroya in this in this software platform is also available just as a spot reading and you can tell some really important things just by having an accurate sensor in the substrate and checking it at different times at the end of the dryback what is my ec you'd expect it to be in the generative phase you'd expect that you see to be really high that's something you can learn from a solus so the last thing I'll say is just stay tuned we do intend to get this technology into people's hands without all of the the the commissioning and setup that is typically required for large enterprise customers we're working on making that available but at the same time we don't want to do that until it's actually ready and and it we want to make it simple and easy to use and not confuse customers as well so please just stay tuned that's a great request and and we are working on it

great thank you I have one more pre broadcast question to submit maybe we can touch on this little final few minutes what does customer support look like and for how long do we have access to it yeah customer support is is forever so if you're an arroyo customer and you're a subscriber you know customer support is is always available to you as part of your subscription so the answer to to that second question is forever for as long as you're a customer and maybe jason just give a quick overview of what it looks like when when you have a problem with the issue or issue with the platform typically how do people raise their hands and say hey I need some help and then what how do we get back to them yeah so there's a couple good ways to get a hold of us probably my favorite way is the support submission request in the bottom left of the screen so if you're logged into aroya and you're experiencing an issue hit that question mark button scroll down to the support form and that's going to ask you some information about hey what type of support request you have is a bug report is it just a question etc and what's nice about that is we get some information about the the session maybe there's some errors going on in the page before you press that button it gives us some background as to what's going on there the other way you can get a hold of us is obviously you shoot us a phone call and or you can always send an email to support.arroyo.io what we do is we just process through those tickets get people the right help from the the correct member on the team and typically it shouldn't take very long okay thank you anything else keisha that was it for the questions just a reminder to everyone we do this every week but we will be taking a break next week because it's thanksgiving yes yes however please keep keep submitting us submitting your questions to us what's the best email address that people want to email questions so for sales questions hit up sales.arroyo metergroup.com for support and just hit support dot array at metergroup.com

and yeah early but hopefully useful happy thanksgiving to everybody and looking forward to continuing the conversation thank you awesome yeah just thanks everybody for joining us today we record every session so we're going to email everyone in attendance a link to the video from today's discussion it's also going to live on the arroyo youtube channel so please do like and subscribe while you're there and if you find these conversations helpful please feel free to share the video with anyone else who might be able to benefit from it I think that's it any final words scott and jason nope thanks everyone

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